The Renku Sessions: A New Beginning – Week 2
I am John Stevenson and I will be your guide for a twenty-stanza, nijûin, renku.
Before we get into the selection of our hokku, I just want to announce that our tan-renga have now been archived here.
The advent of another renku session has brought forth much creative activity. I want everyone to know that I could have highlighted and commented upon many more hokku offers than those appearing below.
I began to winnow the potential choices through a number of almost arbitrary considerations. One of them is that I prefer, since I have so many other choices, not to begin with a verse that names the season. While many good verses mention “spring,” I think it’s better to leave the option to name a season open for use later in the renku.
If a month or a holiday associated with a particular calendar date was mentioned, I passed over the verse in deference to the fact that important parts of our group live in different hemispheres, involving different orientations of the seasons to the calendar.
While it is possible to open with a blossom verse, I have elected to save that for the next verse. And some otherwise good offers included moon or love images. These will have their turns, later in the renku.
It could also be said that what I have selected to highlight befits from a consideration that was not listed in the instructions as a requirement. In fact, I’ve never seen it listed as a requirement for the hokku. But, in the course of reading your offers, I found myself thinking a lot about whether the verses contained words or phrases that might make a good title. While the title of a renku sometimes comes from later verses, the use of some part of the hokku is far more frequent. And, in this setting, it is helpful for us to have a “working title” from the very beginning.
So, with these things in mind, here are some hokku offers that garnered additional consideration on my part:
meadow pond
among the ripples
sprouting reeds
Ellen Compton
Each line of this verse is a potential title. And each would function in a different way as the title. The first line would be the “keep it simple” title – a setting that would be encountered in the very first words of the renku and, thus, get the title business immediately completed. The second line, to me, suggests the interaction of the verses we are about to compose. And the third line, to me, suggests the multiplicity and essential equality (without the sacrifice of individuality) of the poets working together.
cabbage white
this heady sense
the time has come
Laurie Greer
Another possible function of the hokku that is not usually listed as a “requirement” is its potential to comment upon the experience of beginning a new adventure in renku. This verse links the feeling of “spring fever” with the pleasing anticipation of working together.
dandelions
the lawn opens
to bees
Kristen Lindquist
Yes! We’re in business! (In case this idiom – we’re in business – is not familiar to some, its meaning is something like, “anything is possible now!”)
tadpoles—
childhood memories
of a prince
Dan Campbell
Because we have the story of a prince turned into a frog and then returned to his original state by a kiss, this verse is constantly trading outlooks – talk about “link and shift!”
unexpected visitor…
a red kite lands
on our lawn
Marion Clarke
This event could be greeted with either delight or consternation. Because it is presented in the hokku, we are inclined to choose delight. And the verse offers the author of the next verse the opportunity to reinforce that inclination.
whitebait
by the bucketful…
she flours her hands
Marietta McGregor
Little fishes collected for a delicious meal. Little verses collected for a renku. The first and second lines are also interesting title options.
roof tiles in bloom…
in the buzz of bees
noise of time
Angiola Inglese
Roof tiles and noise of time both strike me as potential titles.
a butterfly flits
into the fat of the day—
the skip of a stone
Jonathan Alderfer
I can see I am not alone in loving the phrase “the fat of the day.” That would be a fabulous title. And the way in which “the fat of the day” is echoed structurally by “the skip of a stone” tends to act out the skipping stone. Also, I have an almost unconscious sense that “fat of the day” invokes the “flat” aspect of a rally good skipping stone
Any of the above, and many others not highlighted here, would serve us well as the new hokku. Here is where I would like us to start:
green barley—
we follow the way
of the wind
Lorin Ford
I’m going the suggest “Way of the Wind” as our working title (though green barley would also serve us). Because this hokku so strongly suggests the way in which we move forward throughout a renku and because I have emphasized this by the selection of the working title, the next verse is challenged to reground us in the sensory experience of “seeing the wind” through its effect upon vegetation.
You are now invited to submit up to five wakiku (second verse) offers.
The requirements will be as follows:
- A two-line verse of seventeen syllables or less
- Containing a spring blossom image or phrase from the site listed below
- Without a grammatical break
- Closely linked to the hokku (first verse), possibly by elaborating on the scene depicted in the hokku
For this renku, we will be using this site (http://www.2hweb.net/haikai/renku/500ESWd.html) as the source for our season words and images.
I will be reviewing your offers until midnight on Monday, May 10 (New York time). On Thursday, May 13 there will be a new post in which I will announce my selection of a wakiku, comment on some of the other offers, and issue instructions for writing third verse (daisan) offers.
Thank you, everyone,
John
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mountainside the shade
of cherry blossoms
a fingertip bouquet
of fallen blossoms
a cloud of petals
caught up in a breeze
first blossoms
hitch a tractor ride
5/10/2021 by wendy © bialek
green barley—
we follow the way
of the wind
———Lorin Ford
blossoming clouds
water the wild mountain roses
a farmer slowly cycles
through swirls of plum blossom
…
cherry blossoms float
in my painted tea cup
green barley—
we follow the way
of the wind
Lorin Ford
*
yellow butterfly fluttering from
violet to queen anne’s lace
Michelle Beyers
Copyright © 5/10/21
swishing horsetails
hide his dinosaur
***
Great start, Lorin. Thanks John for your comment.
green barley—
we follow the way
of the wind
Lorin Ford
– – – – — – – – — – – – – – – –
the gray of a nettle leaf
among the butterflies
– – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – –
the hidden perfume
of pittosporum flowers
– – – – – – – – – – – – – – — – –
the lightness of poplars
on the side of the road
green barley—
we follow the way
of the wind
———Lorin Ford
as pear blossoms open
his daughter leaves home
the grass remembers green
and the cherry pink
as the cherries blossom
she laces her boots
footprints in the mud
impressed with plum blossom
plum blossom collage
en plain air
the picnic basket returns home
full of apple blossom
green barley—
we follow the way
of the wind
.
Lorin Ford
.
the next lane passes
the pony ranch
or
.
the next lane passes
a pony ranch
here and there the bright lights of
blossoming forsythia
walking upon
spring grasses his morn’s new wake
***********
bliss of spring rain
still on her long hair
*********
end of snow begins
all gardening in her home
*********
silkworms in cauldron
brings her shine of silk saris
*********
sprouting grasses nod
usher entry of romance
*************
he deems his right
tilling a paddy all life
a nut feeder swinging
amongst forsythia blooms
green barley—
we follow the way
of the wind
Lorin Ford
a hint of orange peaks
out of the papaver
in a snakes eye a hint
of orange papava
Lovlely choice John and congratulations to Lorin for this captivating beginning.
green barley –
we follow the way
of the wind
Lorin Ford
plum blossoms swirl
in the stream
*
kids playing pooh sticks
with plum blossoms
Good, Linda. Love the pooh sticks
where blossom petals
somersault grassy hills
5/9/2021 by wendy © bialek
a peach blossom opens and
a bumblebee stumbles in
*
a dogwood blossom bookmarks
Proverbs in grandma’s Bible
green barley –
we follow the way
of the wind
Lorin Ford
*
the roadside verges
full of blossom
the sculptor’s fingers turning
into wisteria blossoms
green barley—
we follow the way
of the wind
Lorin Ford
wisteria branches
hold this open gate
#####^*+*^*+*^*+*^%%%%
Icarus too
follows air-born dandelion fluff
#####^*+*^*+*^*+*^%%%%
this gate grows open
with criss-crossed wisteria
waves of willow fluff
roll to the end
***
the horsetails bow
to the river and the hills
***
in the cloud-cleared air
the plums seem to quiver
the horsetails bow
to river and hills
green barley –
we follow the way
of the wind
Lorin Ford
***
roses bloom here
and the joyful laughter of the children
Nani Mariani
green barley—
we follow the way
of the wind
Lorin Ford
boiling horsetail shoots
from a roadside ditch
green barley—
we follow the way
of the wind
.
Lorin Ford
crop circles in new grass
ascribed to aliens
green barley—
we follow the way
of the wind
.
Lorin Ford
.
dandelion seeds found
in the colt’s tail
.
peach blossoms mix
with parade confetti
.
a breeze turn willow fluff
into drifts
.
dandelion cypselae find
new homes
Correction:
a breeze turns willow fluff
into drifts
the tide pulls the apple blossom
out to sea
…
clouds race
and peach blossom swirls
green barley—
we follow the way
of the wind
Lorin Ford
where cherry blossoms
dust the mountains
5/8/2021 by wendy © bialek
https://i.etsystatic.com/20845839/r/il/792073/2917884526/il_1140xN.2917884526_c01n.jpg
mustard flowers ripples
across the hillside
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dandelion fluff
drifts in meadow breezes
Correction: hokku should read–
mustard flowers ripple
across the hillside
Thank you for your guidance, John. Congratulations Lorin, for an inspiring hokku! Here are my offers:-
……………………………………….
gathering blossoms
on temple grounds
………………………………………..
we sway at the hedgerow
breathing in roses
……………………………………….
ah, to rest for a spell
beneath peach blossoms
………………………………………
the tonic and respite
among almond blossoms
………………………………………
apple blossoms drift
to meet Queen Anne’s Lace
……………………………………..
the middle road
lined with plum blossoms
green barley–
we follow the way
of the wind
ring-tail shadows
sweep the tranquil fields
returning cold detour
Emerald City
sisters ride
draped in almond blossoms
green barley—
we follow the way
of the wind
Lorin Ford
the scent waist-deep
in a mustard field
green barley—
we follow the way
of the wind
Lorin Ford
camellia tea for a whiff
of exotic places
Great start, Lorin. And thanks John for your comment.
green barley—
we follow the way
of the wind
Lorin Ford
a breath of cherry blossom
enjoyed with our beers
🙂 for the hell of it
.
green barley—
we follow the way
of the wind
.
by lunchtime a rest
under cherry blossoms
the scent of peach blossoms
perfumes the path
blossoms scattered
at the buddha’s feet
the first blossoms
clinging to the bough
petals on a wet
buddha belly
many trees blossom
outside the station
the joy in seeing
mango blossoms
Wonderful image to start from!
Congratulations Lorin (this reminds me of Prince-Edward’s island’s fields… thank you so much for reminding them through your hokku). Thank you for insightful guidance John! “Way of the wind”: it is a pure gem! It is great having you as our navigator 😉
green barley-
we follow the way
of the wind
(Lorin Ford)
***
an almond blossom stuck
on her fresh lipstick
***
almond blossoms gathered
between flooded river rocks
***
a fake peach blossom
in the young flight attendance’s hair
***
peach blossoms offering
so many port of call for the bees
Thanks, Sandra.
coming of autumn
we nod our golden heads in harvest
*************************************************
always waiting evening
we narrate the story of humankind
**************************************************
fragrant breeze from the Fertile Crescent
*******************************************************
in stillness heads drooping
golden spring field
********************************************************
turning golden
we feed deer and beer
green barley—
we follow the way
of the wind
– Lorin Ford
*
old man bent over
a bowl of boiled rose blossoms
*
a cactus blossom, not straw,
broke the camel’s back
green barley—
we follow the way
of the wind
.
Lorin Ford
.
branches of wild plum
crisscross the lane
or
.
branches of wild plum
arching the lane
Way to go Lorin! 😀
what’s left of the camellias
catching a breath
Thanks, Debbie. 🙂
a mountain rose wavers
on a distant hill
green barley—
we follow the way
of the wind
– Lorin Ford
*
breezes blowing blossoms
into the beggar’s bowl
*
fortune tellers reading azalea
blossoms instead of palms
peach blossoms mix
with parade confetti
.
a breeze turns wildlife fluff
into drifts
.
dandelion seeds found
in the colt’s tail
.
dandelion seeds find
new homes
Congrats Lorin! A lovely “way” to start the renku.
.
green barley –
we follow the way
of the wind
.
Lorin Ford
.
.
further afield
what blossoms!
.
in a bird’s eye
wild cherry
.
ear to ear
blossom snow
.
an arpeggio of blossom
rendered in a single note
.
not a yowl of blossom
but the timbre is the same
.
.
Thanks, Princess. 🙂
peach blossom scent
on the morning air
.
was going to use ‘orange blossom’ as they are flowering, here, but not on the kigo list :/
peach blossom scent
here and there
rabbits weave through
a carpet of plum blossom
green barley –
we follow the way
of the wind
Lorin Ford
fragrant gardenia
together towards the aunt’s house
Nani Mariani
green barley—
we follow the way
of the wind
Lorin Ford
our shoes whisper
to the fallen blossoms
blossom mist
hugs the old riverboat
the scent of plum blossoms
wafts across the waking land
***********************************
red plum blossoms float
in the gentle breeze
*************************************
spring orchids color
the rippling hillside grass
**************************************
green barley—
we follow the way
of the wind
.
Lorin Ford
.
an old road leading
into blossom haze
green barley—
we follow the way
of the wind
— Lorin Ford
*
the most beautiful peach
blossoms there by the outhouse
green barley—
we follow the way
of the wind
— Lorin Ford
*
peach blossom waltz
in the breeze
green barley—
we follow the way
of the wind
— Lorin Ford
*
rooster crows sprouting
among the peach blossoms
Congratulations Lorin and thank you John!
*
green barley—
we follow the way
of the wind
Lorin Ford
*
honey bee strolling
among the peach blossoms
Thanks, Dan.
green barley–
we follow the way
of the wind
********************
the scent of peach blossoms
drifts across the path
green barley–
we follow the way
of the wind
**************
the scent of peach blossoms
floats along the path
cherry apple blossoms
floating on the river
Michelle Beyers
Copyright © 5/7/21
cherry petals brushed off
the chessboard
green barley—
we follow the way
of the wind
Lorin Ford
blossoms swirl
in squeals of laughter
Thank you John and Lorin for a great start.
green barley—
we follow the way
of the wind
—Lorin Ford
.
wild roses wave
at the passing parade
.
green barley—
we follow the way
of the wind
Lorin Ford
*
the fawn shies from the blows
of the falling red plum blossoms
*
briefly sheltering in the scent
of the thorny wild rose
*
peach blossoms flipping
with two kids on the trampoline
*
dogs breathless from racing
around the flowering mulberry
*
Would rather have these as apple blossoms (for the sound, especially with “trampoline”)–but don’t see it on the list. If it’s allowed, let me know and I will revise.
“Apple blossoms” are listed, though as something of an exception to Japanese practices. Since they are on the list, I consider them available for this renku.
revised versions:
*
the fawn shies from the blows
of the falling apple blossoms
*
apple blossoms flipping
with two kids on the trampoline
*
thanks!
Laurie, my red oleander tree blossoms all spring! Hope it’s allowed✨
Well, that’s embarrassing. If you can’t unsee that comment, please pretend apple blossoms grow on oleander trees. Sheesh😩
Lovely hokku Lorin!
green barley—
we follow the way
of the wind
—Lorin Ford
*
a knot of snakes
whispers into mist
*
under plum blossom
dancing with light
*
along the old path
after a butterfly
*
an arc of swallows
splicing the clouds
*
barefoot in blossom
on the pilgrim path
Thank you, John. 🙂
green barley—
we follow the way
of the wind
Lorin Ford
*
peach blossom confetti opening
us to the vast unknown
Michelle Beyers
Copyright © 5/6/21
lovely hokku, Lorin .. and John, thank you so much for explaining your train of thoughts and reasoning along with the comments on all those different proposals. … so here, a blossom ..
*
green barley—
we follow the way
of the wind
*
Lorin Ford
*
the shimmer of azaleas
overlooking mother’s grave
I’ll comment here, but could have mentioned this earlier: the opening section of a renku (jo) does not deal with death, illness, grief, or any strongly emotional matters. Those things will all be welcome in the middle section (ha), starting with verse 5.
gotcha!
*
azaleas shimmer in time
with the jump rope chant
Thank you, Maxianne.
green barley—
we follow the way
of the wind
—Lorin Ford
[Lovely hokku, Lorin! I look forward to seeing where it leads us.]
*
trailside lady’s slippers
nipped off by deer
[lady’s slippers are spring orchids where I live]
*
a basket piled with fiddleheads
for our evening meal
*
the old pasture
filled now with cow vetch
*
roadside horsetails sway
with each passing car
*
the water-meadow brimming
with blue violets
Thanks, Kristen. I look forward to see where things lead, too. 🙂
green barley—
we follow the way
of the wind
———Lorin Ford
as plum blossoms open
his daughter leaves home
blossoming clouds shelter
the flowering peach
the grass remembers green
and the cherry pink
plucking a wave of plum blossom
from the tree where you lie
***
your ashes dance a waltz
around the first cherry
***
the camellia not all
that falls at my feet
green barley—
we follow the way
of the wind
Lorin Ford
the first sprigs of white
from the apple tree
green barley—
we follow the way
of the wind
Lorin Ford
*
flurry of peach blossoms
shape the unspoken
Michelle Beyers
Copyright © 5/6/21
green barley—
we follow the way
of the wind
Lorin Ford
a shower of plum blossoms
and a rainbow
Keith (and everyone),
.
It’s a good idea to check the list of season words in order to be sure of your season references. The list designates “plum blossoms” as “late winter” and “rainbow” as “all summer.” So, while this is a nice verse outside of these considerations, it can’t be our spring blossom verse. Please feel free to offer another verse in it’s place.
John,
I thought the list says plum and red plum blossoms are both early spring. Am I reading something iwrong?
Winter
early plum [blossoms] (soobai, late winter)
.
Spring
plum (blossoms*) (ume, early spring).
red plum (blossoms*) (kobai, early spring).
.
So we’d need to use “early” as modifier if we wanted to show plum blossoms in winter, I think.
thank you, Lorin!
Hi folks
Just wondering if an early spring kigo can be used, considering we are moving forward from an all spring kigo?
Thanks, John – will do. (The rainbow came from a bird splashing in our birdbath, which is full of apple petals as it happens….. another time…)
to Robert’s – “Just wondering if an early spring kigo can be used, considering we are moving forward from an all spring kigo?”
.
Yes, an early spring kigo can be used. Since ‘green barley’ is classed as ‘all spring’ on the list, things are open. Following ‘green barley’, any spring blossom can be used, whether it’s early blooming, late blooming or in between. ‘Green barley’ is considered to be present throughout spring, so isn’t a marker within the progression of the season.
When something is designated ‘all whatever season’, there’s no issue of the next kigo in that season, whatever it might be, taking the renku backwards.
Thank you Lorin.
Thanks , dear John…
green barley –
we follow the way
of the wind
Lorin Ford
jasmine falls
tears flowed remembering mama
Nani Mariani
green barley—
we follow the way
of the wind
Lorin Ford
falling first blossoms
circle their shadows
green barley—
we follow the way
of the wind
Lorin Ford
all the dandelion fluff
in clouds
green barley—
we follow the way
of the wind
Lorin Ford
gathering violets
in her memory
In the light of John’s subsequent ruling that reference to death etc. cannot come at this point in the renku, please amend to:
gathering violets
by a sheltered hedgerow
Thank you.
green barley—
we follow the way
of the wind
Lorin Ford
a distant bell
across the spring orchids
green barley –
we follow the way
of the wind
Lorin Ford
zigzagging blossom petals
strewn by the flower boy
5/6/2021 by wendy © bialek
I may not have made it clear enough – this second verse must be a blossom verse.
.
This is more or less forced by my selection of “green barley” in the hokku. One of the first three verses (in a nijûin renku starting in spring) must be a blossom verse. When we started, it could have been any of the three. But now, if we wait until the third verse, that verse would link in a “leap over” fashion back to the hokku – blossom to barley plants. This is something we need to avoid in a renku.
.
On the other hand, any blossom in verse two will be a sufficient link to the hokku.
Can that be any spring flower from the list, John, (for example, ‘violet’) or must it be strictly a blossom? If it can be a flower, can it be a spring flower that’s not on the list, but is widely recognised as a spring flower?
“dawn crows the scuffle of nomenclature ” – Cherie Hunter Day. One of my all-time favourite haiku. 🙂
Quoting Shinku Fukuda, “In Japanese there is no distinction between ‘blossom’ and ‘flower’. They have the same meaning.” And, “Japanese people cannot hear ‘blossom’ without associating it with cherry blossoms. . . (other people) tend to want to (designate) a blossom concretely, like a peach blossom, a pear blossom, (or) a cherry blossom.”
.
Bill Higginson used to say that the blossom verse should feature some variety of fruit tree.
.
We have another blossom verse in this renku (number 19) and, for that one, I think I will insist upon a cherry blossom. For the present verse, however, we can use any spring flower from the list (though I will be most comfortable with some variety of fruit tree blossom). And, for this renku, I am asking everyone to use the list for all kigo.
John,
If we use a cherry blossom for verse 19, is it alright to also have a cherry blossom in verse 2, or should we try to stick with plum blossom or peach blossom for verse 2 and reserve cherry blossom for later?
Thanks, John, for clarifying that. Any blossom or flower that appears under ‘Spring’ on the list, then. 🙂
Michelle, we wouldn’t be having “cherry blossom” in both verse #2 and verse #19 (of that I’m sure)
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“For the present verse, however, we can use any spring flower from the list (though I will be most comfortable with some variety of fruit tree blossom). ” – John
I think John means that if “cherry blossom” doesn’t make an appearance in verse #2 he will insist on including it in verse #19. 🙂 (But I’m not certain.)
Thank you, Lorin. I know there are certain places for certain kigo and we don’t like to repeat. Though I am partisl to cherry blossoms, I’ll hold off till verse 19😉
ghost wind
i listen to silence
dandelion clock
the child’s breath becomes a wish
finding myself in it
quivering rain drop
melancholic
the wind of a thousand butterfly wings
ocean zephyr
kissing the salt from his skin
©️ Veronika Zora Novak
green barley –
we follow the way
of the wind
Lorin Ford
scent of roses
grandma started walking
Nani Mariani
green barley –
we followed his path
wind
Lorin Ford
not too long …
we found my cat
Nani Mariani
green barley –
we follow the way
of the wind
Lorin Ford
a bushel and a peck
of first blossom petals
5/6/2021 by wendy © bialek
Thank you, John. This is a most unexpected honour, and I do feel honoured. I was surprised to find “green barley: all spring” on the list and the verse wrote itself.
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I look forward to reading all the wakiku. 🙂
For those who aren’t familiar with barley fields, there are quite a few YouTube videos and this is one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awCvbOVO7OQ
Lorin, it’s a beautiful hokku and Way of the Wind a great title to work with. Pauline Oh, and I enjoyed the video too. Amazing how the barley rippled.
Thanks, Pauline and Clysta.
Congrats Lorin. Your barley and Laurie’s heady cabbage floated my boat. Thanks for the video link to watch in any season.
green barley—
we follow the way of the wind
Lorin Ford
in our first hello
the scent of wild rose
dandelion seeds disperse
in all directions
sipping horsetail tea
from our finest china
green barley—
we follow the way
of the wind
Lorin Ford
sprats by the barrel load
amongst sea kelp
green barley—
we follow the way
of the wind
Lorin Ford
a mountain rose
tucked into my journal
old woman bows her head
onto the temple floor
up with the lark
to pick wild garlic
A wonderful hokku! Thanks, Lorin.
Thanks, Ellen. I’m happy you like it too. 🙂
Congratulations Lorin. Loved the images from first reading.
Thanks for the guiding thoughts John.
Thanks, Robert. 🙂
drunk on the smell of sap
from the dandelion stems
*
swaying foxgloves
shape the unspoken
Michelle Beyers
Copyright © 5/6/21
Bravo Lorin
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departing geese catch
an updraft above the trees
*********************************
remaining blossoms
cartwheel down the storm drain
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a dusting of willow fluff
sprinkles the pond
***************************
reed sprouts cut a
wake through the ripples
**************************************
dandelion seeds from
two doors down the street
l’m pleased you like it, Michael.
Congratulations, Lorin. Enjoyed reading your comments, John.
Thanks, Carol.
An inspired choice, John–congratulations and thank you for leading us off, Lorin.
And thanks, John, for your illuminating comments and for mentioning my cabbage whites.
So many ways to go now!
Thanks, Laurie.
wow, john….so impressed with your angle-focus on titles! wonderful commentary and crystal clear explanations. the hokku choice is quite the perfect start.
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lorin, a graceful, simple but modern zen-like hokku….congrats for having “way of the wind” lead us for the next journey.
green barley—
we follow the way
of the wind
Lorin Ford
Thanks, Wendy!
Thank you for the insightful commentary, John! Congratulations to Lorin on creating a hokku that sings to the soul. I loved it as soon as I saw it!
green barley—
we follow the way
of the wind
Lorin Ford
Me too, Michelle! Well done, Lorin.
Thanks for your commentary, John. 🙂
marion
Thanks, Marion!
Many thanks, Michelle.
thank you, Lorin. I am a big admirer if your poetry😊
that should read of not if. i am on my iphone🤨