The Renku Sessions: A Day of Snow 12
Greetings and welcome to The Haiku Foundation’s Fourth Renku Session: A Day of Snow. I am Marshall Hryciuk of Toronto Canada and i will be the leader of a 36-link Kasen renku. I’ve led over 40 of these linked-poem gatherings and my latest book, from Carleton Place, Canada is a selection of 15 of them, called petals in the dark.
Hello renku linkers and readers around the world. For verse 12 of A Day of Snow i’ve chosen:
trick-or-treaters skip
under a new moon
–Maureen Virchau
“Trick-or-treaters” establishes us in Halloween in a kinetic way; in costume and improvising on the “rolling dice” of the previous verse. They also maintain the indeterminacy of spilled dice but with a youthful anticipation as they “skip” up and back down the steps to a house.
This twists on the sense derived from “a gypsy’s forecast” that the future is already determined and we feel our duration on earth is fluid again; the future has become the futural aspect of the present. “Under a new moon” simply and beautifully underlines this feeling that the cycle is renewed and suggests that without mortality there would be no life. A growth cycle begins under the auspices of an icon for death.
And, thanks to Maureen Virchau, we can skip to the next verse. What we need now is 3 lines in autumn, still without blossoms or moonlight but also avoiding the repetition of suggestions of harvest, windows, or reflections, for example.
Happy linking,
Marshall
A Day of Snow to Date
a day of snow
no one else
has come to the door–Marshall Hrycuik
coyote song closer
this longest night–Judt Shrode
incense lit
the scent of sage
lingers in a crowd
–Maureen Virchau
bales of the second haying
stacked to the rafters–Paul MacNeil
dust from travelers
makes its slow descent
in the moonlight–steve smolak
faded jeans, school colors
and granny’s specs to match–Betty Shropshire
facing me
a hairy bunyip points
the bones
–Barbara A. Taylor
balls of moss
exit the quaking forest
–Carmen Sterba
in the garden shop
seed packets
arrayed alphabetically
–Marilyn Potter
glasswing on the handle
of my butterfly net
–Karen Cesar
a gypsy’s forecast
uttered to the sound
of rolling dice–Lorin Ford
trick-or-treaters skip
under a new moon
–Maureen Virchau
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chimney smoke
weaves rooftops
afternoon shadows
woops , I am rusty .. can’t repeat * sound from Lorin’s verse ..
try again..
a juicy apple
in my pocket
for my headstrong mare
at the sound of hooves
mice scuttle out from beneath
the haystacks
no farmer
in the field-
all saints day
all the sisters
pull wool vests
out of the trunk
why can’t they
compost the leaves
for sustainability?
sorry, Barbara, renku bar closes at midnight Tuesday, EST in North America -seeyah, next link
our legs grow cold
in thick waders
waiting for trout
ah, trout ain’t nothing like a salmon, anyway, Mary -don’t know how this links but hey …
from dead leaves
a circle of mushrooms
emerges overnight
.
or
.
a circle of mushrooms
emerges overnight
on the lawn
again, Mary, I think you are fusing the action in nature with the action of that activity coming to your attention -i’m thinking of something like ‘ right here at dawn/ a circle of mushrooms/ on the lawn’ or if you have suspended a time-lapse camera over the site ‘watching mushrooms/ emerge in a circle/ on the lawn’
the futility
of raking leaves
on a breezy day
futility is a human feeling -no need to state it in a renku, Mary
probably too destructive for our renku but here goes:
.
in the morning
pumpkins smashed
on every porch
yep, and Smashing Pumpkins was a pretty good rock band as well, Mary -let alone an old David Letterman Show stunt
dry leaves
swirl round in an eddy
of dancing
so we can characterize the motion as a dance, paul, but i think this reduces its impact as a spontaneous and natural event
curls of chimney smoke
weaves about roof tops
on the hills
verb should be ‘weave’ -or just leave “curls of”out -“on the hills” is a flat-out letdown though to the quality of the first two lines
a fly
in the ice cube
of his apple cider
probably put there by his admin. asst. on his 7th attempt -imagine this happening at a World Series baseball game in November, Michael Henry -great prank -but not here
10 point buck chuffs
as the twig snaps
our reverie
What are buck chuffs, Betty? I’ve googled, but to no avail!
—
– Lorin
Lorin it’s another word for snorts…kinda of a warning they make when disturbed. I hear them sometimes when sitting out late to see the Milky Way. I volunteer as a state park camp host in the Spring and Fall and now through most of the Summer. It’s interesting seeing just how close to our campsite they’ll bed down for the night.
BTW, a red State is Republican controlled politically and blue is Democratic. I’m 3 miles from the border with Mexico in west Texas…fun times. Did learn from a state archeologist how to survive the zombie apocalypse by making use of just one type of yucca…the sotol. It’s all good!
Betty
hey, Betty, thanks! … got it! I had it arse about. The buck is a male deer, yes? Similar ecological niche as our kangaroos. How lovely to know you’re a state park host and so closely connected with the animals there. (I so often feel, with Walt Whitman, “I think I could go & live with the animals”)
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ah, the names & colours of political parties, here , there & world-wide, they’re so misleading. Personally, I’d like to be a citizen of a democratic republic. 🙂 I dream.
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hmm, that cactus/ yucca thing reminds me of my (long ago) youth. I’m no longer confident we would survive the zombie apocalypse, by whatever means.
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– lorin
Yep, male deer. You don’t see them until late Fall when they start hanging around the does when the rut kicks in…at least in my part of Texas. I see does with their young in the early mornings and close to sunset. Otherwise, it’s that chuffing noise in the dark when they’re disturbed that is the telltale sign they’re nearby.
I love it here. 360° view of the sky unimpeded by buildings. The park is home to 4000 yr old pictographs (unique and not replicated anywhere else past a 50 mile radius)..accessible only by guided tour…puts life into perspective as it’s inconclusive who they were and what possible relations they have with any known race in the US and/or Mexico. But human presence dates back at least 10000 yrs ago here. One site that sits near the confluence of the Seminole tributary and the Rio Grande River is being considered for a possible World UNESCO site!
And I would dearly love to visit your country!!
Cheers!
Betty
hey, Betty, and i would love to visit your country. I’ll be dong my best to get to the next HNA in New Mexico,, not very far from you, I think.
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cheers,
Lorn,
Aaah, Santa Fe…too rich for me but maybe I can swing a day jaunt. Hope you get to come!!
hi Betty -“as the twig snaps” reminds me of James Fennimore Cooper’s “Last of the Mohicans” where this phrase and its variations were used as much as most pulp fiction uses ‘suddenly’ as an intro to dramatic action -this immensely frustrated D.H. Lawrence, who of course wanted writing about natives peoples in their own element to be so much better than formulaic -makes for good movies though
Dang, Marshall…it’s not lions, tigers, and bears out here but damn near close…mountain lions, snakes, and black bears plus the occasional ‘person(s) of interest’ crossing the border do make me a tad twitchy. Waxing poetic about a twig snapping,? Tell old D.H, sorry…I was too busy hightailing back inside the trailer while trying to not drop my camera gear in the dark…
Respectfully,
Major Wuss
PS …did get some nice Milky Way shots
the breeze
cold enough for saggers
to pull ’em up
not really concerned here with how cold the breeze is if there’s no link, Shrikaanth -‘sagger’ i only know as the ceramic coating around clay when it’s bein fired
Sagging is wearing jeans and pants real low so as to show underpants and butts (moon)- and there is your link Marhsall. Too bad you didn’t see it 🙂
promises
as firm as falling leaves
from a wannabe Prez
an analogy and a political comment, Shrikaanth -how could you? lol
the park lady
gives every third nut
to the squirrels
ah, a reverse on the Halloween “trick-or-treaters” -nicely done, but not what i’m looking for
at dawn
a new crop
of chantarelles
Yum! 🙂
—
– Lorin
this is more like it, Marion -the link being the morning after a new moon -but i think it might more likely be just before or after the full moon -but thanks
a windfall apple
coated in caramel
for everyone!
and they grow on ‘caramel corn trees’ too, Marion -all the earth is already for everyone and owned by no one
our rope swing
frayed and listless
in the chilly wind
ah, now here’s a perception, Shrikaanth -though don’t really need “our” and we need to reconcile “listless” with “wind” which would probably be tossing it at least sideways regardless
Thanks Marshall- listless because there are no kids to play on it anymore 🙂 “our” to personalise it. I am happy to say “a rope swing”, if that works
unable to resist
biting into
her toffee apple
seems like a Halloween link, Marion -something I’ve been trying to resist here
the Buddha’s
gap toothed smiles
in rotting pumpkins
I don’t remember any icons of the Buddha with “gap toothed smiles” -if there were this would be a fresh perception -but this reads more like a conceptual preconception, certainly well-intended, that there is ‘Buddha-nature’ in everything -which is a fine sentiment but more of a sermon than a poem
wondering
where the bonfire spark
will settle
“wondering” unnecessary here, Marion -improved 2 liner would be ‘where will the bonfire spark/ settle?’
oops should be three lines isn’t it?
…
lading out
a bowlful of love
as pumpkin soup
I panicked just now when I read your two-liners, Shrikaanth – I thought it was me who got it wrong! 🙂
Hehe you sure got it right girl ? I goofed it up
way too metaphorical, Shrikaanth, almost liturgically so -something you risk when you observe/describe human actions
I didn’t think metaphors were disallowed in renku Marshall. Even haiku uses it, no?
the same old
playground chants
as terms begins
why this repetition of “old” -especially as “term begins”
a toothless old woman
grins back
at a pumpkin
says a lot more about the woman than it does about the experience of autumn, Marion
a glint in the eye
of the carousel horse
as it is packed away
okay, Marion, but we don’t want “packed away” just yet
with the pumpkin soup
mom dishes out her love
a bowlful of warmth
served as pumpkin pie
yeah, we’re looking for 3 lines here, Shrikaanth
skid marks
and a lifeless doe
in a pool of blood
well, an abrupt closure, Mary -not right here
the old sow
oinks as she unearths
a cache of truffles
interesting, Marion, in that it plays on the dual and different meanings of “truffle” as both an underground mushroom and a chocolate confection to link to the “trick-or-treaters” -not sure about having “the old sow” so close to a gypsy -and we’ve already had a granny in her specs -have to think about this one, thanks
Not sure a dog is allowed yet, but here goes:
.
unearthing
a pile of squirreled away
hickory nuts
ha! obviously I took out the dog, but left my sentence above!! *sigh*
in my experience, Mary, squirrels unearth anything just to see if it could be edible -but yes, no dogs and “squirreled away” not a happy phrase for our renku, here
gathering the last
of the windfall apples
off the lawn
does it have to be “the last” ones, Mary? -closure not appropriate here
a leaf zig zags
onto grandma’s quilt
on the veranda
hi Agnes -the “onto” followed by “on” would be okay in a solemn occasion -but this is a light one -and i think the effect is doubled by having “zig zags” in the first line
trick-or-tweeters skip
under a new moon – someone else
.
too humble
to ‘speak for the world’
the scarecrow is mute
.
* hi Marshall, I know this is more for the politics section, but as others are commenting, I thought I would add my comment as someone who voted for Donald Trump in the Primary and plan on voting for him in the General.
.
Cheers,
.
Karen
Sorry for the ‘someone else’. I use that designation in my ‘working’ Renku to distinguish verses by others while I am noodling out my own verses. SO:
.
trick-or-tweeters skip
under a new moon
.
– Maureen Virchau
.
too humble
to ‘speak for the world’
the scarecrow is mute
.
Karen Cesar
.
* ??? Maureen
No worries, Karen. I completely understand. Thank you, and take care.
have to wait for ‘Current Events’, Karen
There IS a world beyond the USA, Karen.
—
– Lorin
gravel beds
pock-marked here and there
with roe
Sigh…again nevermind…I think this probably backlinks to seed packets!
yes, it does, Betty, but this could be underwater, and i’ve never had an underwater link suggested before -still can’t use it here
Hillary paints the town
and her lips
a maple leaf red
so here comes the fun with politics, eh, Marilyn -we’ll wait for the ‘Current Events’ section
watching from a bench
an old man and his wife
breathe in the frosty air
hi joel -nice reversal, as instead of watching the air puff out as mist, the observer here is watching or at least commenting on people as they take in air -little too wordy though
in this fog
each step follows
a different path
bit of a philosophical approach, Carol with too much of a mental conclusion -though i know keen and empathetic observation are tough in heavy fog
🙂
glistening in early sun
sneaker prints on cobblestones
looking for a 3-liner, Marilyn
sharks ETs geisha
vying for room
at the Fete du Vent
–
–
–
the first e in Fete needs a circumflex accent
–
“Festival of the Wind”
sharks ETs geisha
vying for airspace
at the Fete du Vent
I know, it isn’t worth all this. Still…
sharks and ETs
vying for airspace
at the Fare du Vent
Well, autocorrect scores again.
hello Judt, wasn’t looking for another festival here -especially not in costume, but happily playful
end of season-
the hunter’s bag full
with fairy tales
“end of season” is problematic, Vasile as some deer hunting seasons continue after the winter solstice -but also, though playful it has a heavy kireji and strongly suggests closure
to be or not to be?
in the rifle range
a young deer
little awkward, Vasile, having the beginning of a Shakspearian soliloquy; his most famous, applied to another being’s existence
ok, Marshall, I’m trying to rework “the old blind” into something that works better:
.
in a dense thicket
the hunter anticipates
a leaping stag
.
or
.
behind a tree
the hunter anticipates
a leaping stag
thanks, Mary, I can see you’re working very hard at this but neither of these improves your link suggestion -“in a dense thicket” reminds me too much of a Charles Olson poem
Hi Marshall…I have a couple more renku questions. From what I think I’m picking up in your comments, the interdictions might tend to ‘fade’ with distance as the renku progresses. For example, at first “precipitation” couldn’t be repeated, but later it was OK if not too wintry. And now I’m guessing that perhaps the “no mammal” may have lightened into “no canine”?
Also, I’m wondering where we are in the progression of tone. For example, I’m seeing proper nouns and current events popping up. Are these used in a certain series of verses, or is it perhaps also a kind of blending in a general direction?
Certainly, I’m aware that your aesthetic sensibility and deep experience, not only ‘rules’, are the guiding forces here. Just wondering how it works ‘in general’.
Thank you again for your patience, insight, and accessibility in this fascinating process!
yeah, Judt, they do become modified with distance and then at 18 the slate is relatively cleared -i say ‘relatively’ because i don’t want snow and day moons and canines to pop up immediately in offerings starting at verse 19 -but yes, no mammal has been lightened to no canine. Proper noun places and names in caps are two things I like to include in every renku -but not by section -though the ‘Current Events” section can often include these. Other specificities we need are a numeral, a foreign word, an almost obsolete English word and a ‘not English speaking’ festival. The seventh is a word in English in Roman type spelling that i think ‘bunyip’ fulfilled. That is, we don’t need another one but suggesting another one would not eliminate it as an offering for that reason alone. And it is a process and i’m confident I’ve never repeated the same sequence of ‘sections’ in any renku I’ve; like leaves and snowflakes, they all have the same molecular formula but no two are exactly alike. That gives a renku, to me, its organic feel. I appreciate that you appreciate my accessibility; i really believe Basho saw renku as a way of leading what we would now call a workshop about writing out of the attitude of non-attachment and the appreciation of both the ‘un-created’ as natural and impermanence as a way of life. Thanks to you and everyone else who’s been participating for being so accessible to me and not taking my recommendations personally. On with the process
Thank you for this, Marshall!
Thank you both Judt and Marshall. Judt has been asking some wonderful questions. These questions and answers are really excellent for those like me who are quite new to the form. I know many here are long time veteran renku writers, and I appreciate the patience with which all offerings are considered.
This part of the renku process has been fascinating! I’m learning lots. Thanks to question posters and Marshall for your exposition.
Marietta
after the excitement
a steaming bowl
of oatmeal with syrup
nice connection with the Trump thread, Michael Henry, but not a link with all that Halloween candy around
scaring the world
the spectre ( apparition?)
of Donald Trump
—
– Lorin
yeah, I know, though it’s true & though it certainly links with Halloween (in my view), it doesn’t have an nature-autumn reference for season, though it certainly does indicate a human season of decline,
Lorin, US election, first Tuesday of November — IS — an autumn event. Not a “nature” connection, though … but your stanza is seasonal. Our 4th of July is summer; Canada Day is Summer (July); Australia Day also summer (your January). Not nature, but a season reference.
Up to our fearless leader, but a kasen often has room for a political or current events stanza.
Ah,yes, of course, Thanks, Paul! 🙂 Next weekend is a long weekend here because of the official Queen’s birthday on Monday (her real birthday is in May) This is probably a seasonal reference for Canada, too . . . different season though, winter here & summer there,
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I posted this ku off the cuff, as a comment, but perhaps I could shape it up a bit for Marshalls consideration after all:
—
the world trembles
at the spectre
of Donald Trump
—
(We do! We’re aghast! )
– Lorin
or, to avoid two def, articles:
—
our world trembles
at the spectre
of Donald Trump
—
– Lorin
more for the ‘Current Events’ section I would think, Lorin
no, a section of 2 stanzas, Paul -at the turn of the Kasen, here
in the foyer
our jackets hung
along with our masks
no masks, or we’re linking on Halloween again, Michael Henry
A dust devil
Blows her hat
Into the fading leaves
Please ignore the caps,my tablet does that
a dust devil
blows her hat
into the fading light
a little cute, Aaalix, but “fading light” is a real killer
a red cardinal
flits through
the fading leaves
hi Aaalix -we already had “faded jeans” linking to a moon verse
no time to waste
for the skeleton crew
working Black Friday
“Black Friday” way too American, Betty -retailers in Canada -mostly owned by Americans have tried it for 3 years now and it’s a total flop -our Thanksgiving is the second Monday in Oct. and it’s just another long weekend -and “skeleton” works on the Halloween link that i’m trying to discourage
Just for interest, Black Friday (or Tuesday, or any other day of the week for that matter) is the newspaper headline descriptor usually given after devastating bushfires in Australia.
Marietta
Yep, that’s a fact 🙂 (Why am I feeling like a foreigner in this renku, I wonder?)
– Lorin
in an old blind
the hunter anticipates
a leaping stag
“leaping” here then, Mary, would be the link to the previous verse’s “skip” and that would seem contrived except that stags can hardly run without leaping and the verse does evoke “Hunter’s Moon’ when read with its previous verse -blinds are usually sunken areas, so it would be natural to anticipate the prey being above the hunter at first, but i just don’t feel i’m down in the ditch in anticipation -maybe we need another characterization of the blind than “old” -but, thanks, i’ll keep thinking about this one
above bare trees
the Milky Way
reveals itself
naw, Mary, can’t have “bare” and “reveals” in the same verse, referring to two separate entities
dry leaves
swirl round
in an eddy
very close, but not over the line close to the “rolling dice” and the implied crystal ball of our gypsy ball -the minimalist motif is part of the strong effect here, paul, but i do believe we need a second element of contrast or juxtaposition to make this a complete link to the ‘just previous’ verse and not remind us so much of the one ‘two-previous’
dry twigs
rustle against
a dark wndow
ah, Paul, “window” got you again -enough glass, specs and reverse angles already (even darkly)
Awww.
polling new voters
some red States
shift into blue
Nevermind…new moon..new voters…
would be nice if it happened though
Dunno what red & blue mean in the US, but let me tell you that I recently changed my hair colour because that Trump spectre/ caricature of a human seems to have been using the same L’Oreal colour as I used to, Wouldn’t want to be associated in any way whatsoever!
Cripes! Talk about apparitions of horror! The world hasn’t had the likes since Hitler!
—
– Lorin
a wreath
of leaves in alternate
red and gold
commemorating the dear departed in battle, Michael Henry? -has a strong ring to it but i just can’t read it with the “trick-or-treaters” and hear or feel a link
I was thinking seasonal door decoration other than Halloween and alternate as a loose link to skipping
i’ll give it another go
to the hollow
through russet litter
grumbling bears
hello Marilyn -uncomfortable with the bears’ destination given before they are -or their camouflage -the effect of this is a distancing from the action that gives it a ‘cartoon-y’ or story-telling woodcut feel -that again, we are trying to avoid
the stillness
of chorus frogs
in deepening chill
naw, i know it’s no accident but I don’t like the rhyme and “stillness” here has a slightly negative connotation -as in going into dormancy or hibernation
Aomori cold snap
in the abdomen
of the tiger-striped wasp
-Patrick
i’ll take this as surrealiste, Patrick -Aomori, i know only as a city in Japan that’s the capital of the prefecture of the same name and “tiger-striped wasp” draws a blank -hypothetically this would ‘snap’ the wasp at its waist = lay it to waste, then we’d all be ‘Charlie hebdo-men’
still crisp
a curled leaf on the river
disappearing
nice appreciation of impermanence here, Judt -first line has a bit too much of a full stop -though of course that halt is effectively characterizes the leaf condition -this is better as a poem by itself then as a link in this renku
within
splinters of old corncrib
who who
effective alteration of assonant ‘i’s and ‘o’s, Todd -connect to the eeriness of Halloween without repeating it -i’ll reconsider this one later, thanks
one last pint
till we stagger out
to the foggy, foggy dew
—
– Lorin
we have a pub here in Toronto called “The Foggy Dew”, with the Gaelic for it across its main outside wall on ‘King St.’ -not for here, though
“we have a pub here in Toronto called “The Foggy Dew”,” – Marshall
yeah, well, interesting to know 🙂 I guess you’d stagger out of ‘The Foggy Dew’, not into it. 🙂
– Lorin
beanies donned
to brave the chill ready
for tonight’s Perseids
I think, Marietta, around here we’d say, ‘tocques’ rather than “beanies” -“ready” is extraneous, but i applaud you for being the first to attempt a link to the sky and the moon -I like your other verse offering better though
after salted salmon
draining river water
from the Kappa’s head
-Patrick
hi Patrick -don’t know how you are using “Kappa” -it is a river in Japan and don’t know if you mean after we’ve eaten the salmon or after the salmon have brought salt from ocean water into a freshwater river -find this as a link to skipping “trick-or-treaters” plausible though tenuous, and probably not exclusively autumnal -certainly distinctive though
. . , these water figures of folklore are interesting. Japan has the Kappa, Mexico & thereabouts has La Llorona, and we in Australia have the bunyip, All seem to have served to warn children of the danger of drowning.
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“A kappa (河童?, lit. river child), also known as kawatarō (川太郎?), komahiki (駒引?, lit. horse puller), or kawako (川虎?, lit. river tiger), is a yōkai demon or imp found in traditional Japanese folklore.[1][2][3] The name is a combination of the words kawa (river) and wappa, a variant form of 童 warawa (also warabe) “child.” In Shintō they are considered to be one of many suijin (水神,“water deity”), their yorishiro, or one of their temporary appearances.[4] A hairy kappa is called a hyōsube (ひょうすべ?).[5] In Japanese Buddhism they are considered to be a kind of hungry ogres.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kappa_%28folklore%29
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– Lorin
thanks, Lorin -so the ‘hungry ogre’ aspect would be the link -too much Halloween, too much wikipedia
. . . wikipedia is quite often a boon with international haiku & renku, I’ve found,
—
– Lorin
at daybreak
a trail of sweets leading
into the alder thicket
more Halloweenreference, Mary -and “daybreak” reiterates part of our hokku
Maureen, congratulations on a very fine verse. I really like this one.
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three Jack O’Lanterns
discarded in a pile
of fallen leaves
Thank you for your kind words, Mary. Take care.
yeah, I guess you know by now, Mary, we’re not extending the Halloween scene
sorry Marshall, for several offerings connecting with halloween. As a newcomer to this form, I have trouble grasping how to LINK to the previous stanza effectively. I’ll try to do better in future.
the wafting smell
of roast chestnuts
from the street vendor
welcome back, Polona -strong autumnal feel here, but “the scent of sage” in verse 3 too strong a backlink
oops, missed that one
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and thanks though i never left
hot lemon and honey
for all the sore throats
in the morning
—
– Lorin
at the rehab centre
dry leaves shuffle
in circles
—
– Lorin
yep, I see that Marion has posted a ‘dry leaves’ ku & this is too close, so I withdraw this one.
– Lorin
wow, totally functional with the remedies, Lorin -keep the juices flowin’ but i think you know human improvement projects are something i’m not going to include in a renku
I didn’t know. I do now 🙂
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– Lorin
a squirrel
makes quick work of
some stray candy corn
again, Michael Henry, i would put “of” in the third line -great ‘extension-link’ of the Halloween scene here -but i’m not including those kind of links in this renku
the last leaf
on the last maple
drops in her bag
too much closure, Michael Henry
bus route
adding backpacks
to the shopping list
suggests school preparations well, Joyce -just don’t like the 3 flat ‘a’ sound within 4 syllables of the second line
after the party
her magician disappears
into the mist
nice bit of a conceit here, Marion; the magician conjuring up his own disappearance -concerned that magicians are just as likely at a birthday party as a Halloween event but i’ll think on that, thanks
horses’ foggy snorts
lead our morning jaunt
along the track
hi Marietta -this one has an ‘autumny reek’ to it -i’ll keep it around -thanks
dry leaves
race around
the schoolyard
“race”, Marion just over the line as being ‘self-motivated and intentional ‘ and therefore anthropomorphic -had “school” in verse 6 as well
on field mushrooms
and the stone circle
morning dew
—
ie. after Halloween/ Samhain night. The one derives from the other. Everything & everyone passes but the cycle continues.
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– Lorin
well, Lorin, to my way of composing these things, if a verse refers to ‘Samhain’, you’d better write “Samhain” somewhere in it -but we’ve already referenced Halloween so don’t want to repeat, continue or redefine its presence here -that to me is the essence of Western writing -which, though this is an English language renku with a ‘Western’ leader i am striving to avoid -guess here is the place to say it; i don’t write haiku because i want it to join and expand the Western mainstream audience for poetry but because i want to chop down the rhetoric of Western, ‘human-first’ prejudicial writing in favour of an honest and inspired approach to nature as the source of our being -I think haiku, and its linked forms such as renku are a ‘way away’ from everyday thinking and not a vehicle for redefining them
“I think haiku, and its linked forms such as renku are a ‘way away’ from everyday thinking and not a vehicle for redefining them” – Marshall
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I wonder if Basho would’ve entirely agreed? The bodhisattva concept, which he seemed to embrace. . .something like “attain the high, return to the low” . . . put to use in poetry. All those illustrations of the enlightened man back in the marketplace, having a beer (so to speak) with everyone else.
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– Lorin
owl warns all
Of the cold still nights
silent dawns
the sight of an owl maybe, makes us think of being warned, Kathrrine -I saw one perched outside a university building on a cold, still, autumn morning and wasn’t warned at all -just thought it was marvellous
Owl
warns all
of still cold nights
with silent dawns
hello Kathrrinr -I believe owls may protect their young but that any warning we receive from them is our projection on to them as if they’re part of our human world -which they’re not
Congratulations Maureen, lovely verse.
four thirsty ghouls
devour hot chocolate
on this chilly night
Thank you, Barbara. Very kind of you. Take care.
hi Babara -continuation of Halloween them -nocely done, but I want to avoid restatements of theme
at the cider mill
apples tumble into
a long, red chute
seems to me, Mary, that they make cider all year round -though, if we were playing by kigo, I guess ‘apple’ would be aan autumn indicator -doesn’t ‘work’ for me
chainsaw screeches
as he sweats to cut
the cord of wood
hi Paul -prefer “screeches” to “screams” in the verse -“screams” might more likely link to the Halloween scene -but “chainsaw” still has too much cultural baggage in view of the multiple shootings and knifings not just across the U.S. but in my city in Canada as well -as in ‘massacre’
chainsaw screams
as he sweats to cut
the cord of wood
all that’s left
a string of persimmons
drying in the wind
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– Lorin
wondered, Lorin, how this linked to our latest moon verse -unless you were playing off of the ‘left out ladder’ and the ‘bobbing-and-coming up empty’ offerings earlier today -then i wondered if you were slyly referring to a book of haiku of mine entitled, “Persimmon Moons”
No, Marshall! Slyness, or flattery, for that matter, aren’t attributes I’m known for, If in doubt, ask around, 🙂
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I didn’t know about your book, nor do I see any relation to ‘apples’ (which are harvested earlier in autumn than Halloween, to my knowledge), I believe that persimmons are a traditional kigo for late autumn . . . ie, later than Halloween, and I wanted to make sure my offered verse was appropriately later than Halloween . . . and when I checked in Higginson’s ‘Haiku World’ to make sure the reference accorded with your American seasons, it proved to be so. (Page 214, first edition, 1996)
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While I was browsing through, though, I did find your haiku:
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twigs and leaves crackle
wind rising on the hilltop
a flaming oak
(page 221)
. . .also given as example for “late” autumn)
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I thought mine linked to Maureen’s moon verse via “all that’s left” — after the (pagan, in it’s origins, btw) Halloween night which features ‘sweet things/candy splurge for kiddies in demonic costumes’ ( I imply) all that’s left of sweet things are a few drying persimmons, which are not very sweet until they’re dried and their sugars have concentrated, It might be a poorer person’s house, and the last of sweet things have been given to the annual candy splurge’. Time to pull in the belt is implied.
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So there ya go. 🙂
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– Lorin
thanks, Lorin -pulling in the belt just seems a tad apprehensive to me -not something i’m known for and don’t want to include here -but happy to entertain your responses
btw, my favorite haiku/ senryu about Halloween is:
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no way out
Death’s at the door
demanding candy
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— LeRoy Gorman, The Heron’s Nest, Volume XII, Number 1: March, 2010.
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– Lorin
Oh, I remember this one from the Nest, Lorin – I also loved it! 🙂
as is mine
yes, Marion and Micheal, (thanks!) It’s a beaut, with it’s layers of the terrible and the hilarious, 🙂
– Lorin
another fan of this one 🙂
well, you know, i’ve known LeRoy for 38 years -no surprise one of his haiku is a favourite -he’s a been a great poet for haiku and great to have as a friend
a world so sweet
yet only seeing scuff marks
on his oxblood shoes
-Patrick
first line, Patrick, reads like a summary or a platitude -which we don’t need, even if it sharpens the tone of your verse -unclear to me, as well, whether “oxblood shoes” are a type of shoe or a deep colour of red on the shoe
“sweet”, “sweets/candies” relates to the annual American kiddie ritual of Halloween. “oxblood” is a traditional dye colour for (mainly) men’s shoes’
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“The word oxblood originated around 1700 but research reveals that the color refers not to the blood of oxen but is an abbreviation for “oxygenated blood” which turns a deep dark red color when it is exposed to the air. This shoe color has long been a cobbler favorite but was particularly popular with preppies on college campuses following World War II. In his menswear book entitled Elegance, G. Bruce Boyer, who is co-curator of the upcoming exhibition at the Fashion Institute of Technology in New York City on the fashions of the 30s, states that, ”There was virtually not a middle-class young man or woman in the United States who did not own a pair of oxblood penny loafers in the 50s.”
http://paulevansny.com/blogs/the-curator/11679549-oxblood-shoes-an-overview
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– Lorin
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– Lorin
hey Lorin, thanks -“sweet” was still used in the context of a generality here -but ‘oxygenated blood’ makes a lot more sense -makes me think of a ‘blood moon’ -but still can’t use his link suggestion
again this year
bent tines of the leaf rake
getting the job done
yet again
bent tines of the leaf rake
doing the job
funny, Judt, i was just trying to remember the word for “leaf rake” yesterday and couldn’t -they always have bent tines -both the first and third lines here feel ‘out-of-whack’ with the second for the boredom they evoke
little more upbeat, Judt -but i think we need a complementary image added in place of either line one or three
turned up collar
wood smoke drifting
through the valley
hi Joyce -nice fall feeling here -we had incense lingering in the third verse though -too soon to repeat this motif
the last leaf
on the last maple
holding on
this is more positive, Michael Henry, though how it links to the moon verse is lost on me -would suggest ‘last leaf/ on the street’s last maple/ holding on’, though -maybe if instead of ‘street’ you wrote something that would link to the “trick-or-treaters” more firmly
at the county fair
bobbing for apples and
coming up empty
hey there, Michael Henry -I know i would write this ‘bobbing for apples/ at the county fair/ and coming up empty’ to make it one continuous series of motions -the second line occurring while your head was under water -the third line in parallel to the rising back of your head -don’t know if this works for you though -“empty” has a negativity i’m still trying to avoid and even if it weren’t i’d have to consider how close the “bobbing” game is to extending a narrative from the “trick-or-treaters”
grandma’s quilt
snags a thread
on the chest latch
a lovely reference, Agnes, to the Japanese custom of bringing out the warmer bed coverings with the beginnings of colder weather, Agnes -but i think the ‘uneasiness’ of “snags” and a process broken would work better as an independent haiku than as a link here, where we’re still spreading out in positive relays
ah, I was also trying to link to the skipping with a broken thread (skipped stitches)… although that signals an imperfection. Unless it’s a well-loved imperfection, which gives it a more positive spin. Or another link altogether with the quilt idea! Let me try with:
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out of storage
the familiar zig zags
of grandma’s quilt
the low angle
of a ladder left
against the apple tree
again, Paul, this is original, simple and autumnal -the 3 ‘l’s and the 3 ‘a’s a bit heavy for a ‘one-image’ verse though -either need to change “left” and write ‘by’ for “against” or maybe add another image of juxtaposition so your words can work along a wider amplitude
the variegated fringe
of her scarf holds
morning fog
“morning fog” together with “scarf” good indicator for things autumnal, Paul -and “variegated” also evokes the shades of the foliage that time of year -not sure about “holds” in that place or for its meaning -certainly nothing obscure here -i’ll consider this one again later, thanks
a flock of finches
investigates
the empty feeder
problem with “investigates” Paul -just a little too human-centred a word -though the way finches move to and fro for food is a good link with “skip”
Thank you very much, Marshall. I’m so glad this verse works well for the renku, and I sincerely appreciate your kind words. Thank you for your detailed and insightful commentary here, as well as throughout this fascinating process. I look forward to everyone’s verses.
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With gratitude,
Maureen
you’re very welcome, Maureen