fibonacci ku

[Gael Bage]

: traditional, contemporary and innovative Haiku. i would appreciate a really clear definition of these three please. I like to write fibonacci poems and it is possible to do a mini fibonacci ku in 17 syllables and fibonacci numbers
1
2
3
5
3
2
1........total 17 syllables

which of the three might this fit traditional as it could be seventeen syllables and have two parts fragment and body, even a season word, or would it fit in contemporary, or innovative ?

[chibi575]

I like the innovative use of combining fibonacci, syllables, and palindromes.  The Japanese haiku composed in hiragana (the Japanese alphabet) is 17 letters.  I wonder what mental calisthenics it would take to do the eguivalent in the English alphabet?

ciao... chibi

[cat]

Hello, Gael,

If you go to the Haiku Foundation's home page and click on the tab for contests, you will find the HaikuNow! contest and it gives very good descriptions of traditional, contemporary, and innovative haiku.

IMHO, I would think your fibonacci poem would be innovative because of its structure.  Not traditional, because even though it's 17 syllables, it isn't 5-7-5.  And if contemporary is most of what appears in the journals, not contemporary, either.

Just my opinion.

cat

[Gael Bage]

Chibi and Cat, that was helpful, thank you  :)

[Gael Bage]

Chibi a palindrome... thinking about it, a haiku as a palindrome would take a very agile mind to combine that and the natural elements of a haiku, do you have any examples ?

[chibi575]

Chibi a palindrome... thinking about it, a haiku as a palindrome would take a very agile mind to combine that and the natural elements of a haiku, do you have any examples ?

Gael, I've tried but so far like all English palindromes they seem a bit awkward but playful.  I don't know any in Japanese haiku, but, they exist in Japanese statements, although, I am taking the word of on of our weekend renku players.  He gave example but it is burried in my "not-so-organized" notes.

Here's site of googled examples:

http://www.japan-101.com/language/kaibun.htm

[Gael Bage]

It looks easier with their brief words, our words vary so and can be very long, also wouldnt it naturally split in half how would you get a fragment? Just thinking aloud probably nonsense, when I understand zips better I will look in my disorganised bit again for your link, yes, I have one too  ;D  Would love to see it if you manage one !

[chibi575]

pets step
madam not on madam
but a tub

A quck and silly one example!

Do this in a ficonacci sequence of English syllables is a REAL CHALLENGE.

[cat]

Kudos, chibi!

I think my brain would explode if I tried to write one.

cat

[Gael Bage]

Yes Kudos Chibi what fun, mind boggling as a fibonacci not simple at the best of times, perhaps we should ask for a play area, good to have fun and not be too serious all the time, amazing what comes when we let the child in us loose.it might work well in one liners ? Cat come and play we'll clear up the mess if your brain explodes  ;D

[Gael Bage]

LOL hot from the drawing board hee hee, not quite a haiku - nearly a senyru, a palindrome fibonacci

      dam!
     I saw
   avid dog
lived as a devil
   god-diva
     was I
      mad?

[chibi575]

Yes Kudos Chibi what fun, mind boggling as a fibonacci not simple at the best of times, perhaps we should ask for a play area, good to have fun and not be too serious all the time, amazing what comes when we let the child in us loose.it might work ell in one liners ? Cat come and play we'll clear up the mess if your brain explodes  ;D

GREAT!  Just show me the sandbox*... uh... but I'm starting to worry about inviting "cat"!   ;D  

*In this context, "sandbox" represents a free-form place to explore and/or remove boundaries and a place where fun is encouraged.

[chibi575]

LOL hot from the drawing board hee hee, not quite a haiku - nearly a senyru, a palindrome fibonacci

      dam!
     I saw
   avid dog
lived as a devil
   god-diva
     was I
      mad?

BRILLIANT and FUN!  Bow... wow!

[Gael Bage]

Apologies to admin for playing around in the serious discussion area

pretty please ! - may we have a sandbox ?

[G.R. LeBlanc]

I like the idea of a sandbox.  ;D