Accidental Haiku?

[Tristan B]

I was reading an aloutte by Jan Turner titled 'spring eternal' and saw a lot of haiku in that poem, sample below;

blown against the walls...
pleated pinwheels turning 'round
In the springtime breeze

I googled hi name and found nothing, searched his name in this forum and also found nothing. I find the structure of aloutte is very similar to tanka. other poets must be laughing but this is something new to me. I was just wondering whether it's accidental, or he was really writing haiku.

[AlanSummers]

Hi Tristan,

Thanks for posting.

I think I've seen this years ago but had forgotten.

Two links;
http://bensonofjohn.co.uk/poetry/formssearch.php?searchbox=Alouette
http://www.shadowpoetry.com/resources/wip/alouette.html

It's perhaps taken from tanka, but extended into a 12-line two stanza poem itself extended to 30 lines for the Spring Eternal poem.

It's more flowery so not so close to haiku, but perhaps to earlier tanka?  Certainly influenced by a perceived view of waka.

I'd say the found haiku is a bit wordy and too poetic for haiku.   As we wouldn't usually do 'words as in 'round it feels like a 585er to me.

But an interesting exercise that might be used for contemporary poetry outside haiku/tanka/waka perhaps.

Thanks for posting. :-)

warm regards,

Alan

I was reading an aloutte by Jan Turner titled 'spring eternal' and saw a lot of haiku in that poem, sample below;

blown against the walls...
pleated pinwheels turning 'round
In the springtime breeze

I googled hi name and found nothing, searched his name in this forum and also found nothing. I find the structure of aloutte is very similar to tanka. other poets must be laughing but this is something new to me. I was just wondering whether it's accidental, or he was really writing haiku.

[cat]

Tristan, I don't know why you couldn't find anything. I Googled her and in less than 10 seconds was on this page, which is about another form she created, the "Staccato." At the bottom is her biography, which says she created the Alouette (not "aloutte") and eight other forms.

http://dversepoets.com/2011/11/17/form-for-all-beth-winter-hosts-staccato-form/

Shadow Poetry (which used to publish the haiku journal White Lotus) says this about the Alouette:

The Alouette, created by Jan Turner, consists of two or more stanzas of 6 lines each, with the following set rules:

Meter: 5, 5, 7, 5, 5, 7
Rhyme Scheme: a, a, b, c, c, b

The form name is a French word meaning 'skylark' or larks that fly high, the association to the lark's song being appropriate for the musical quality of this form. The word 'alouette' can also mean a children's song (usually sung in a group), and although this poetry form is not necessarily for children's poetry (but can be applied that way), it is reminiscent of that style of short lines. Preference for the meter accent is on the third syllable of each line.

http://www.shadowpoetry.com/resources/wip/alouette.html

Hope this helps!

cat