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Lorraine Pester

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Re: zuihitsu, organic form poetry and open form poetry
« Reply #30 on: June 19, 2021, 08:10:16 AM »


hello light pilgrim,

you had previously commented on haiga. i got wound up on my shaman story and never addressed your question.

i tried a couple of haiga in 2016 when i was first here on the site. Alan Summers gently steered me in the better rendition of my experimentation.

here’s my take on haiga:::you have a haiku (fragment-phrase-jux) that can stand on its own. you have a photo that can stand on its own. they should not explain each other in an obvious manner.

i look at that photo as providing another layer of jux. wow! just arrived at that realization just now! THAT’S why the photo and haiku shouldn’t be obviously joined!

until this very moment, my hesitation with haiga has been knowing what photo goes with what haiku! this is an aha! moment for me! VERY COOL!


on another note:::i came to mark doty through his poem “a display of mackerel.” loved it then. continue to enjoy it now.

back to you.

lorraine
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« Reply #31 on: June 23, 2021, 04:21:47 AM »
Hello again,

Thank you for returning about your haiga. What you say about the poem and the image standing on their own is absolutely right. The craft is in finding a nuanced link between the two. Me thinks you’re well on your way into experimenting with haiga and getting to the nub of it.

Alan is brilliant and generous as a mentor.

Thanks to you l found Mark Doty’s “mackerel” poem and love these lines:

“the rainbowed school
and its acres of brilliant classrooms,
in which no verb is singular, …”

light pilgrim

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Re: zuihitsu, organic form poetry and open form poetry
« Reply #32 on: June 23, 2021, 05:40:50 AM »


hi light pilgrim,

a special thanks to you for posting the info about sonam chhoki’s latest book. thanks to mike montreuil, i am the proud owner of both her new book and the one they wrote together. amazing use of language and clarity in both! and the best thing? mike was able to send files that work on my kindle!

lorraine
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« Reply #33 on: June 23, 2021, 08:40:40 PM »
Hi again,

Not at all, Lorraine. 😊

Mike is very good and helpful. I hope you enjoy the read.

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« Reply #34 on: June 24, 2021, 07:00:39 PM »
Hi Lorraine,

cattails journal accepts haiga. Submissions open on 1st July. Do think of sending some of your haiga.

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« Reply #35 on: June 25, 2021, 03:26:14 AM »
Hi Lorraine,

cattails journal accepts haiga. Submissions open on 1st July. Do think of sending some of your haiga.

light pilgrim

a gentle nudge? thank you for the encouragement and the vote of confidence. i’ll take a look at my pics.

lorraine

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« Reply #36 on: June 25, 2021, 10:07:48 AM »
Hi again,

Your post about Merton’s photography and your own interest and trying out haiga reminded me of the black&white photos by Lavana Kray, who is also the Haiga Editor at cattails:

http://www.cattailsjournal.com/issues/CattailsApril2021.pdf

Perhaps you have some haiga to send😊

Lavana is helpful and inspiring.


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« Reply #37 on: June 25, 2021, 02:04:03 PM »
Hi again,

Your post about Merton’s photography and your own interest and trying out haiga reminded me of the black&white photos by Lavana Kray, who is also the Haiga Editor at cattails:

http://www.cattailsjournal.com/issues/CattailsApril2021.pdf

Perhaps you have some haiga to send😊

Lavana is helpful and inspiring.

i took a closer look at lavana’s b&w photographs. quite amazing

perhaps

lorraine
My entire soul is a cry, and all my work is a commentary on that cry.   Nikos Kazantzakis