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Quote from: flowerfox on January 28, 2023, 12:48:41 PM
An engaging video, Alan. You have used some interesting words that you have come across or misheard.
Your final verse I found quite emotional even though you have given the listener the opportunity to rework.
My first thoughts were of poverty during childhood, a lost and found happiness, something which was found and cherished within your third line.

An engaging video, Alan. You have used some interesting words that you have come across.
Your final verse I found quite emotional even though you have given the listener the opportunity to rework your verse.
My first thoughts were of poverty during childhood, a lost and found happiness, something which was found within your third line.

I downloaded this last night and look forward to reading your verses, and all the other poet's work.

Hello Alan

I had thoughts of reading all the verses before posting, its a huge read, and will take some time to do so.

It is an absolute delight to read.

Thank you

Carol

Congratulations, Chen Ou, nice to know all you hard work is appreciated.

Thanks Alan and Karen. Just downloaded this, and look forward to reading all the entries.

Hi light pilgrim

I look forward to reading the work of WG Sebald. I had to look up Santos Campo - cemetery/burial place, now that piqued my interest.

Lorraine was kind enough to send me some pdf files on  various writers. I started on the last two. The second one I'm in the process of reading -Scotus, Hopkins and living in the particular- an interesting read.

A quote from it: read not slovenly with the eyes but take a deep breath and read it with the ears.
And isn't this the way with poetry, and more so with the short form verses such as haiku and related forms.

At the moment I'm reading a book by Thomas Merton-when the trees say nothing- nature writing.
This I feel is much the same as the way of writing zuihitzu, minus the verses.

It will be interesting to read the passages of his encounters with animals, knowing the nature of the beast is an important part of capturing their true nature within words.

Back to work, then down to more reading, later on.

Hello light pilgrim and Lorraine

Thanks for the info, about this being a genre and not a specific form it does leave way for a bit of interpretation on presentation.

I enjoyed the search, and this conversation. t has lead me to many different writers of verse and nature.

Some time ago I started to read, essays in idleness. I'll go back for another read, at some time, I could get more from it second time round.

Now, its a case of getting down to reading and as always re reading.

Thanks both

I may be away for some time :)

When you come back.

I was going to down load the kindle version, glad I didn't after reading your conversation.

I've seen different ways poets writ this zuihitzu, is there no right way. I like what I saw in the advanced mentoring section, so, I'll go with this.

I would indeed be more than happy for you to send me info.

Hi light pilgrim

Thankyou for your reply. The sites I have visited are, Autumn Sky Poetry and read work by Andrea Zawinsky
Poetry Foundation read work by Jenny Xie
also work by Tina Chang 1969

I know I'm a total novice in this subject, and each poet has his/her own way of writing, however, I found their interpretation of zuihitzu nothing like the format presented on this site.

I also came across the pillow book when searching. I'm happy to read this if it will enhance my understanding of this particular way of presenting verse.

Now, into the links you have provided.

Definitely more than 'swatting' :)
This will take some reading and understanding.

Thankyou

Carol

Apart from, Lorraine and Chen-Ou's zuihitzu poetry, I have found nothing else of this calibre. I have searched but nothing has come up to match these.
All I find is sporadic sentences that make no sense.

The words, instress and inscape is interesting know about. Something to consider when I, eventually, get to grips with this zuihitzu and produce an experimental piece.

A link to swatting up on this would be welcome.

Thankyou in advance.

Kafka's insect
... I share half-lives I didn't want

Alan Summers
Does Fish-God Know

This time around, I did a search for the the story. A sad little tale, with an ending I didn't expect.
Knowing a little of Alan's past, through open and honest conversations, during workshops, I find the second line is something to ponder over.

Thanks for the links.

'beautiful monsters' like the sound of that, and look forward to reading the entries selected.
A long way off, but worth the wait by the sound of things.

Respect is a two way street, something for you to think about, and remember.

Just been reading through this-

Quote-

'you're snobbily name dropping, trying to show off that you are part of the elite, and sneering at the folk who aren't'

pottygok, you couldn't be more WRONG if you tried.