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For those into music, have a go at composing a track to:

rain-soaked wind
the weather-worn notice
peels back more

Alan Summers
https://soundcloud.com/naviar-records/sets/haiku-276-rain-soaked-wind-the

Still time, Deadline: 24th April 2019!
http://www.naviarrecords.com/2019/04/17/naviarhaiku276-rain-soaked-wind/

Hi Lorraine,

When I first created an account with Wordpress it was only so I could acknowledge other people's work with a like and occasionally with a comment.

There is absolutely no need or requirement to post your own work on someone's blog, or even on any blog you create. I didn't use my wordpress blog for years, but at a later stage started using it for published work or events, or thoughts.

Just think of it as a holding place. But no worries if you are unsure. No need to worry about creating a blog for now. The post was for people who can already click like, or tempted to create a wordpress blog so they can both like someone's post.

If you are unsure, I wouldn't worry about it. Other people will read the post, who have wordpress.

warmest regards,
Alan

Quote from: Lorraine Pester on April 22, 2019, 02:23:09 PM

Quote from: AlanSummers on April 22, 2019, 12:35:10 PM
Hi Lorraine,

If you have a wordpress account just click onto a title which brings you to one of Rache's post...

e.g.

https://projectwords11.wordpress.com/2019/04/21/hiding/

if you don't have a wordpress account to be able to click you can register here:

Get Started top right:
https://wordpress.com

Get Started:
https://wordpress.com/start/user?ref=homepage

You don't have to go the full way and worry about creating a blog, but it's very useful to have a wordpress account so you can show appreciation for other people's work on various accounts, blogs, sites etc...

No matter how strong a writer, we all need likes, legitimate ones of course, to keep us encouraged, especially at times when we doubt ourselves, which can be far too regular to be comfortable, to be honest.

kind regards,
Alan

Quote from: Lorraine Pester on April 22, 2019, 12:10:48 PM

Quote from: AlanSummers on April 22, 2019, 09:19:28 AM
Please do consider 'clicking' like on Rachel's blog as she set it on automatic so we can feel her voice in haiku for long after she sadly passed away:  https://projectwords11.wordpress.com

Alan,

I went over to her blog; couldn't find a way to 'like;' explication please!

Lorraine

Well, I'll have to create an account. And while we're talking, does putting my work on such an account count as being published? Just asking

Lorraine

Hi Lorraine,

If you have a wordpress account just click onto a title which brings you to one of Rache's post...

e.g.

https://projectwords11.wordpress.com/2019/04/21/hiding/

if you don't have a wordpress account to be able to click you can register here:

Get Started top right:
https://wordpress.com

Get Started:
https://wordpress.com/start/user?ref=homepage

You don't have to go the full way and worry about creating a blog, but it's very useful to have a wordpress account so you can show appreciation for other people's work on various accounts, blogs, sites etc...

No matter how strong a writer, we all need likes, legitimate ones of course, to keep us encouraged, especially at times when we doubt ourselves, which can be far too regular to be comfortable, to be honest.

kind regards,
Alan

Quote from: Lorraine Pester on April 22, 2019, 12:10:48 PM

Quote from: AlanSummers on April 22, 2019, 09:19:28 AM
Please do consider 'clicking' like on Rachel's blog as she set it on automatic so we can feel her voice in haiku for long after she sadly passed away:  https://projectwords11.wordpress.com

Alan,

I went over to her blog; couldn't find a way to 'like;' explication please!

Lorraine

Please do consider 'clicking' like on Rachel's blog as she set it on automatic so we can feel her voice in haiku for long after she sadly passed away:  https://projectwords11.wordpress.com

Wonderful anthology!

Very easy to order too! Support independent publishers! :-)

Quote from: sandra on March 09, 2019, 11:37:37 PM
number eight wire: the fourth New Zealand haiku anthology is now available. A survey of the decade 2008-18, it features 330 poems by 70 poets of all ages. The 150-page perfect bound book is available only through the editors (ie, it's not being listed on Amazon).

Please go to this webpage for full price and ordering details: https://breathhaiku.wordpress.com/2019/02/24/number-eight-wire/

Tribute prepared by Marion Clarke, Northern Ireland.
cattails – April 2019
Page 5...
In Memory of Rachel Sutcliffe (1977 – 2019)
http://www.cattailsjournal.com/issues/cattailsapril2019.pdf

Marion has prepared a wonderful tribute that works on many levels, and is a beautiful piece about our much loved poet.

Alan Summers
President, United Haiku and Tanka Society

Great! That's brilliant!

Can't wait to see what's next in Bones then!  8)

Quote from: Seaview on April 09, 2019, 03:51:07 PM
Thanks so much, Alan. I'm only spotting your kind comments now. It was your reaction to my monoku unable to breathe his alien announcement that inspired me to produce that piece!

And I too enjoyed John's and Ray's work - it's a great issue.

Dear Carol,

On behalf of Karen and myself, thank you! It was an incredible day, and fantastic that you could lend your farming seasons experience and more for our American ginko colleague too!

The spirit of Wales was embraced both on that day, and the day we got back, after a very long day of bus rides as the trains were not working! :-)

Thank you so much for being there, and such an integral part of the day, and for your friendship and kindness, and giving so much to the walk and the workshop.

To be overlooking Sir Peter Scott's house and surrounded by his vision made true, and also his paintings, was awesome wasn't it! :-)

warm regards,
Alan
https://www.callofthepage.org

Quote from: flowerfox on April 06, 2019, 01:38:02 PM
The workshop at Slimbridge was, and will remain, a memorable day.
Our hosts Karen and Alan made us feel at ease and encouraged us to pass constructive comments on
the haiku presented, not only at the workshop, at this outstanding venue, but those who submitted, for the event, from other parts of the world, online.
What an experience.
Many thanks to those present at the workshop, and the unseen people who were with us in the spirit of haiku.

Low Bow  :)

Dr Gabi Greve, a German citizen living in Japan, continues to compile fascinating information about Japan and its culture, and often writes simply:

yuugen 幽玄 Yugen

Yugen (yuugen) Noh Theater

"We dance round in a ring and suppose,
But the Secret sits in the middle and knows."
--Robert Frost

Dr Gabi Greve says:
"Reading about Yugen will give the reader an idea, but not the full reality of it.
Just like reading about food will give you an idea, but your stomach will still be empty.
Reading a translation will not give you the real ... depth, truth, beauty, words fail me here ... of a Japansee haiku.

Being exposed to Japanes culture on a daily level for 30 years, still, the concept of yuugen is far from grasped.

And I studied quite a bit about Noh Drama, Kamakura had a Noh stage (noobutai 能舞台) with excellent performances."

Lots of good notes and excerpts from Gabi continue on this web page.
https://wkdhaikutopics.blogspot.com/2007/03/yugen-yuugen.html

yūgen is mentioned by Dietmar Tauchner, translated from the German:

The Aesthetic Coordinates of Haiku:
A Ginkō Towards Mount Fuji
https://bregengemme.net/bregengemme/media/essays/The%20Aesthetic%20Coordinates%20of%20Haiku%20Essay.pdf

Dietmar does a magical article about many things regarding haiku, worth downloading and printing out!


Red Moon Press have a book on yugen:

Snow in a Silver Bowl: A Quest for the World of Yugen,
a study by Hiroaki Sato   $12.00

If you take a poll in Japan as to which artistic form the word yūgen brings to mind, the majority will say, "nō drama." This, in an important way, is correct.

But there is an apparent contradiction in the response, because, if you go on to ask for a definition of the word, most Japanese are likely to say it suggests something "dark," "mysterious," "ambiguous" or, as the author's tanka poet friend Ishii Tatsuhiko put it, "artistically contrived ambiguity."

It may also suggest something "ancient," even "withered." Ōba Takemitsu, Starr Conservator of Asian Art at the Metropolitan Museum of Art, asked over a drink to define yūgen, came up with the image of "an old man emerging out of mist."

Second Revised Edition

ISBN: 978-1-936848-23-2
Pages: 114
Size: 4.25" x 6.5"
Binding: perfect softbound
https://www.redmoonpress.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=173

Quote from: XYZ on April 05, 2019, 06:58:08 AM
I would appreciate your views on Yugen. I would very much like to work on my haiku to imbibe this Japanese aesthetic, but it always remains so elusive. Wabi and sabi is also difficult but Yugen is something out of reach. I cannot understand it properly. Is it only evoked by terms like fog, mist, night, shadows. How can we imbibe Yugen in our writing?

Transition of the Concept of Yugen: A Note on
Japanese Aesthetics
https://kuscholarworks.ku.edu/bitstream/handle/1808/1139/CEAS.1971.n10.pdf


https://www.thehaikufoundation.org/juxta/juxta-1-1/karumi-matsuo-bashos-ultimate-poetical-value-or-was-it/

Two to keep you busy for a while!

Alan

Bill Higginson explains it really well:


A SENSE OF THE GENRE, A SENSE OF THE LANGUAGE
William J. Higginson
http://www.haikuworld.org/begin/whigginson.sep2003.html

Excerpt:

Most English words ending in '-ing' are either nouns or partial verbs, called 'present participles'. Such nouns seem relatively rare in haiku, as they usually suggest an abstract level of thinking.

The last word of that sentence is a good example of the '-ing' form as noun; grammarians call it a 'gerund'. When a gerund does show up in a haiku, it had better have an article in front to prevent it from being understood as a verb:

evening fog . . .
whispering of mothers
quiets the children

Can't you just hear the fog going around whispering about mothers? Simply putting 'the' before 'whispering' would eliminate the problem. (See what telegraphese does to a haiku?)

A present participle can get a haiku in trouble. The worst are participles without grammatical subjects (and therefore 'dangling'). Since participles can appear before—and change the meanings of—nouns, one lacking a subject before it normally refers to what follows. A penchant for omitting subjects often yields ludicrous results, of which the modest author may be quite unaware:

choking, coughing,
the moon shining over
the quiet lake

Heard the moon cough lately? Much better to give the action to a third person, and put the verbs in the plain present tense:

he chokes and coughs . . .
the moon shines over
the quiet lake

A SENSE OF THE GENRE, A SENSE OF THE LANGUAGE
William J. Higginson
http://www.haikuworld.org/begin/whigginson.sep2003.html

Some people get confused over what is a gerund, and confuse certain present participles etc...

Jane Reichhold (two 'h's):
https://poetrysociety.org.nz/affiliates/haiku-nz/haiku-poems-articles/my-favourite-haiku/favourite-haiku-by-jane-reichhold/

Alan

Quote from: XYZ on April 01, 2019, 06:29:45 AM
I've recently read the techniques of haiku by Late Ms. Jane Reichold Ma'am. She wrote that author's intervention should be minimum in haiku, e.g. instead of writing 'I listen', she would use 'listening' to eliminate the 'I'. But few weeks before, I've read we should not use gerund in haiku. Which path would you advise to follow- gerund or no gerund?

Hi Pragya,

Congrats on your honourable mention by the way! :-)

war anniversary
her daughter knows
each star by name

Pragya Vishnoi
Kanpur, INDIA

re Frogpond, I believe it's only Michael Ketchek dealing with submissions, unless you heard from someone assisting him?

Michael Ketchek <mketchek@frontier.com>

Although it's unusual in haiku circles to have to wait long, I've waited 2-3 months at least once or twice, it's nothing compared to a regular 6 months or even an entire year in the general/mainstream poetry journals. :-)

Alan

Quote from: XYZ on April 01, 2019, 05:13:31 AM
Thank you Sir. Actually when I submitted last time, there was an acknowledgement sent so I was worried if my Email reached them or not. But you are right that I should wait. Maybe they have stopped sending acknowledgements now and directly send rejection/acceptance mails after going through the submission.

Quote from: AlanSummers on April 01, 2019, 04:13:33 AM
Dear Pragya,

Submission periods are one month long: March for the spring/summer issue.
Acceptances will be sent shortly after the end of each period. Please submit only once per submission period.
http://www.hsa-haiku.org/frogpond/submissions.html

I'm not aware that many magazines/journals send any emails confirming receipt, only if the work is accepted or not.

It is now only April 1st, so submissions sent throughout  all of March will start to be looked at.

Please be patient.

kind regards,

Alan

Quote from: XYZ on April 01, 2019, 03:38:01 AM
I submitted to Frogpond journal on March 29, 2019 but I didn't get acknowledgement for it. Thinking my email was not delivered, I re-sent the mail on March 30 and March 31. Still I didn't get acknowledgement. I am confused if my submission has not reached the journal. How can I know whether my submission is received or not? If it was not received, can I submit it's haiku for a contest?

Thank you.

Dear Pragya,

Submission periods are one month long: March for the spring/summer issue.
Acceptances will be sent shortly after the end of each period. Please submit only once per submission period.
http://www.hsa-haiku.org/frogpond/submissions.html

I'm not aware that many magazines/journals send any emails confirming receipt, only if the work is accepted or not.

It is now only April 1st, so submissions sent throughout  all of March will start to be looked at.

Please be patient.

kind regards,

Alan

Quote from: XYZ on April 01, 2019, 03:38:01 AM
I submitted to Frogpond journal on March 29, 2019 but I didn't get acknowledgement for it. Thinking my email was not delivered, I re-sent the mail on March 30 and March 31. Still I didn't get acknowledgement. I am confused if my submission has not reached the journal. How can I know whether my submission is received or not? If it was not received, can I submit it's haiku for a contest?

Thank you.

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SALE: Bring a Friend!! Two places, with the second half price!  :)
https://www.callofthepage.org/events/haiku-at-slimbridge/

For anyone attending our Call of the Page ginko events and writing a poem or two, haiku will be considered for a special book later this year!  8)

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