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Al and John,
   thank you for taking the time to answer my question. If iI have it right since the 1980s modern ELH has been written in a frag/phrase style and has become the unoffical rule on how to write a modern ELH. But as in all rules they are made to be broken. But if your going to break the rules you had better do it with a master touch. ie:
                        hating him
                        between bites
                        of unripe plums

  ok guys thanks for the information.
a haiku student, darrell

Hello everyone,
 Can anyone tell me when is it ok to have a haiku read like a sentance? I take a lot of insperation from others published haiku and so much of it seems to me to read like a sentance.
case in point:
    after the game
    a full moon rises over
    the left field fence
                              cor van den heuvel, the haiku anthology

  in my medicine cabinet,
  the winter fly
  has died of old age
                            jack kerouac, the haiku anthology

  indian paintbrush
  still wet
  with dawn colors
                        garry gay,montage the book

 and many more I find in my reading and study of haiku.

  thanks in advance for any comments , a haiku student, darrell

haikurambler,
  Is pluto a planet? some scientist say yes, others say no, who is right? who is wrong?
  I suspect individual haiku are like pluto. Was a plant, then wasn't a planet, all because the definition of what a planet is has changed. Will it change again in the future? Will pluto get its title back?

a haiku student, darrell

anyone,
 wanted to try my hand at haiga, but am having trouble figuring out how to import the photo-haiku=haiga into the new topic page in beginners. could someone give me step by step instructions on how to do it please?

thanks in advance, darrell

All who have responded to this thread,
  Thank you for your words of wisdom and encouragement, I think I'm getting close to moving up into advanced. I'm catching myself making argumental points with mentors. lol How dare he bite the hand that feeds him.

forever a haiku student, darrell

alan,

     hahahaha I dont have enough workshopped to submit to a magazine....but I do have enough written on my laptop to fill a magazine.

    BTW: when I post a ku to workshop and get no or little feedback....what does it mean? its not worth commenting on ? or its fine like it is? I only ask because I VALUE the mentors feedback so much.

     haiku student, darrell

how will I know when i'm ready to move to advanced mentoring?

thanks, darrell

mentors,

          Question, is it ok to asign human emotions and/or thoughts to animals in a haiku?
          such as "a fish feeling bigger in a small pond". Some internet sites say its ok others say no.



           We are leaving los angeles heading to vancouver canada so I will be offline for the next week

         a student of haiku, Darrell

thank you john and don,
  i followed your link don and enjoyed reading the comments made by so many experts.

Just wondering, with the millions of haiku's written over the ages, how do you insure you haven't duplicated another writer's efforts ? It seems like it would be easy to do. I wrote one that came so easy that it seems like it MUST of been done before. I did a internet search useing the words i wrote and can't find a haiku formed from them.....but not all haiku are on the net. Short of reading every page of haiku ever written it seems like its impossible to be sure.
It's been said " there is no such thing as a original thought" can that also hold true in haiku/senyru ?

 I'm wondering how you know when to stop shortening a Haiku
following is a Haiku by Kamala Moore taken from her book " In the spirit of Haiku"

jay's shout from the treestops
teenage boys
ready for a fight

now I can shorten it to

jays shout from trees
teen boys
ready to fight

but in doing so, don't you lose the message, and it's flow ?