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Other Haiku News / Berry Blue Haiku Update
« on: April 21, 2011, 06:31:16 AM »
Hi, everyone!

I just wanted to let you all know that all issues of Berry Blue Haiku are now available for free. They can be downloaded through CurrClick at http://www.currclick.com/index.php?manufacturers_id=402  To download your free copies, all you need to do is register with CurrClick (this is free).

We hope that everyone will check out our issues. You'll find haiku, haiku-related articles, lessons, crafts, and more--all geared toward young readers. For more information, please visit our blog at:

http://cobaltcrowproductions.blogspot.com/

Please help spread the word!

Thank you.


Gisele LeBlanc
Founder and Executive Editor
Cobalt Crow Productions

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In the end, I believe it's incredibaly important that we protect the integrity of haiku - it's genre as a whole. It's commensurate in importance that we discover our haiku voices, our haiku selves, and write from intention and integrity combined.  Haiku is an experiential genre.  First, the hajin experiences something:  secondly, he/she composes a haiku to share that experience in a haiku way.

Don, very well said! Although I have to add that I consider imagining something vividly as an "experience". ;)  I also love what you said about where you get your inspiration. I think I need to observe the world around me more because some days I just can't seem to find any haiku-worthy moments. I'm sure I'm missing a lot of them because I know that they are everywhere.

Gisele :)

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I wanted to be quite firm about the concrete experience side of things because there was that famous or infamous attempt by someone to get a haiku published where he was in a cage with a lion in one submission, and with a black panther (animal) in another haiku submission.  Now that's desk-ku! ;-)  It was just plain silly, and there was no attempt at writing well, or using it as metaphor, or in a gendai manner.  It was just sensationalising his life and expecting everyone to be equally excited.

Hi Alan,

Oh, yes, that is definitely desk-ku! LOL! And I totally agree with the point you were trying to make. Not all haiku are created equally. ;)

And ouch on the root canal! Glad you got through it okay. The dentist office is probably my least favorite place to be.  :-\

And yes, on the lucid dreaming, or it might have been astral projection--I think they are quite similar and one can probably be confused with the other? I think a lucid dream can result in an out of body experience? Anyhow, it's freaky stuff. I've always had an interest in it but I'm too chicken to try.

Gisele

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My only concern is that I'm not so sure imagination is actual experience in a concrete sense.  People have imagined flying when in actual fact they've stepped off a tall building.  Sorry about the two sentences both having sand and cement in common. ;-)

Yes, I know what you mean. I guess I wouldn't say that it is actual concrete experience so much as an amalgamation of things seen, heard, and experienced? Our subconscious combines all these things together and then we perceive it as imagination, when in reality all things stem from something we experienced at some point in our life.

Even the thought of flying isn't totally fabricated. We've all seen birds fly. It exists.

I think this is where most fiction stories come from even though the writer is probably not aware of it.

I've done this myself, taken as step back and analyzed all my fiction novels and realized that I had one major theme running in almost every one. Most of my stories at the core are basically the same, and they stem from the experiences I've had during my life.

Even dreams are not totally fabricated. They come from our subconscious and are all mired in some form of reality. But here, I think the lines between thought and imagination overlap somewhat.

Also, from a quantum mechanics perception it might be more accurate to say that all concrete experience stems from thought/imagination? Thoughts do vibrate and are real; this has been scientifically proven. They affect our reality. Global consciousness affects our reality.

People imagined of going to the moon, and it became a reality, so who's to say that all those thoughts aren't "real"? Who's to say that the thoughts aren't more real than reality as we know it?

This comes to mind:

I dreamed I was a butterfly, flitting around in the sky; then I awoke. Now I wonder: Am I a man who dreamt of being a butterfly, or am I a butterfly dreaming that I am a man? ~~Chuang Tzu

I think everything is intertwined...and I am going off topic. lol. Sorry. I love talking about this kind of stuff. :)

But yes, I know what you mean about wanting your haiku to come from direct physical experience. I do as well--I'm just saying I'm not against letting thought/imagination step in at times. :)

Oh, and on the lucid dreaming, I know someone who dabbled in that before and had a very bad experience as well. Same thing happened to him and it came to a point that he couldn't turn it off and felt like he was caught in a nightmare. It really, REALLY freaked him out.  :o

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Beyond being perhaps some kind of electrochemical reaction, doesn't it seem reasonable to think that imagination is rooted in experience -- fed by everything we've experienced through any of the five senses as well as through the intellect?  Does that not make what we create "real" at some level?  Or does only physical experience count?

Gisele, maybe that is one of the tests -- does the haiku, whatever its origin, feel "real" to the reader?  It may take more skill to make a "desk-ku" seem real, but if it does seem so, if it has what in fiction we call "verisimilitude", then it works, IMHO.

Cat, I think it is quite reasonable to think that all imagination is rooted in experience of some sort. It truly is a fascinating subject. And I agree on what you said here about the "desk-ku" as well. :)

And Gael, I also agree that we are all part of nature and that it is in our nature to imagine. Unfortunately, once we become adults, many of us stop using our imagination. I think the world would be a much happier place if more people used their imagination and creativity as well. 

Sandra and Don, I also loved reading your posts!

This has been a great thread, everyone! Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts.

And yes, I'm addicted to exclamation points and smileys.  ;)

Gisele

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Oh, also, Peter and Will, welcome aboard!

Gisele :)

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Thank you, everyone, for chiming in! What a wonderful thread!

Cat: Wow! Over 500 haiku--that is amazing! And to think I was proud of the 145 I wrote last year...lol  :) You've inspired me to get into the habit of writing at least one a day.

And, Alan, I like the use of "catalyst" instead of "inspiration". That makes a lot of sense.

I'm glad to hear a few of you mention desk-haiku. I tend to be of the mind that dreams, thoughts, and images from the imagination are "real". I believe all reality begins with thought, so I'm not against desk-haiku at all, especially when it comes to haiku for (or written by) children because imagination to me is an inherent part of childhood. However, I would call these "fun-haiku" and I realize that many people would not consider them haiku at all.

In fact, one of the very first haiku I had accepted was a totally fabricated desk-haiku, before I even realized there was such a term. The image in my mind was so vivid that it felt very real to me. So I guess I don't believe there is anything wrong in experimenting with desk-haiku.  :)

And in the end, whether a haiku is fabricated, comes from memories, or personal experiences, it still has the power to resonate with others if it is well crafted. With all that said though, most of mine do come from things I've experienced or witnessed.

Gisele

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Hi everyone,

I was wondering where everyone's inspiration for haiku comes from? Do you write haiku purely from personal experiences, or do some of you also write haiku based on things you've seen on TV, movies, read in books, etc.?

Also, I'm curious, do you write haiku when they come to you, or do you sit down and purposely think of haiku to write? Do they come easily or do you have to work hard to craft them? And on average, how many haiku do each of you write in a week or a month?

Just thought it might be interesting to share this information.

Gisele :)

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New to Haiku: Free Discussion Area / Re: hide and seek
« on: January 09, 2011, 08:18:18 PM »
Why thank you, Alan! And I have to admit, I had to look up the expression because I wasn't quite sure what it meant in England! I wasn't sure if I was going to have to go into hiding again. LOL! ;)

Gisele

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New to Haiku: Free Discussion Area / Re: hide and seek
« on: January 09, 2011, 07:46:08 PM »
It's not just administrators. If you go to your Account Related Settings, there is a little box you can check that says "Show others your online status". If you uncheck it, you will be hidden.  :)

Gisele

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In-Depth Haiku: Free Discussion Area / Re: fibonacci ku
« on: December 20, 2010, 06:37:07 PM »
I like the idea of a sandbox.  ;D

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New to Haiku: Free Discussion Area / Re: Goal Setting
« on: December 16, 2010, 08:05:43 PM »
Congratulations on meeting your goals, Julie!

I'm not sure if there's a standard progression that poets follow, but I'll be interested to hear what others have to say. Personally, I don't like focusing too much on publication because I view it as more of a result. I focus more on trying to write at least a few haiku every week, submitting on a regular basis, targeting new markets, etc.

I will, however, choose one or two markets and then set my mind to submitting to them until they accept something--that's pretty much the closest I get to setting publication goals. I don't think long-term too much either. I figure that if I keep learning, writing, submitting, and targeting new markets, the rest will take care of itself. :)

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In-Depth Haiku: Free Discussion Area / Re: Concerning English Short Poetry
« on: December 14, 2010, 07:31:44 PM »
I wouldn't have thought what I said was too difficult. Your questions, if not taken merely as rhetorical, can be answered by the obvious historical precedent, we could look at them thus:

Hi Lorin,

It may be obvious to anyone who is quite knowledgeable on the subject, but I am definitely not an expert on Shiki so I wasn't sure what you were implying with your questions. I agree that his motives at the time seem quite different from the motives that are spurring the current debate, which is why I still don't see how the historical precedent can answer what we have to gain? The circumstances are so different.  :-\

All I know is that I love haiku, I love writing it, I love reading it, and I love sharing it. And that's enough for me.

Oh, and I did not know that Shiki wrote haiku on baseballs! I really do need to start reading up on him. He sounds like he was a fascinating person.

Anyhow, thanks again for your input. It's appreciated. :)

Gisele

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In-Depth Haiku: Free Discussion Area / Re: Concerning English Short Poetry
« on: December 14, 2010, 03:57:22 PM »
Hi Lorin,

I know that Shiki is the one that coined the term haiku, but I'm not sure exactly what you're saying? Can you elaborate? I can sometimes be a little slow on the uptake.  ;)

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New to Haiku: Free Discussion Area / Re: punctuation marks
« on: December 14, 2010, 08:26:47 AM »
Yay!!!! I'm so glad, Josie! I know whenever I figure something out on the computer without my husband's help, I get so excited! LOL!  :D

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