I just realized that I have more than 300 haiku & short form poems out on Twitter. What is the best way to organize them? ??? I can't seem to wrap my mind around how to structure the collection. I used to just log one poem per Word document in a Poetry folder on my computer when I wrote longer forms, but that seems excessive for short forms. Maybe one haiku per index card & throw them all in a recipe box?
How do you organize your haiku? Thanks in advance for sharing. :)
Julie B. K.
Hi Julie,
Is this a continuing on from this thread?
http://www.thehaikufoundation.org/forum_sm/new-to-haiku-free-discussion/goal-setting/
Are all these poems published and then put on twitter? Or are some or all of them in twitter magazines like 4x20 for instance?
You certainly have enough haiku to consider for a collection, or a collection competition:
http://www.snapshotpress.co.uk/contests/book_awards/guidelines.htm
Manuscripts submitted in category C should comprise of 60–100 short poems. These may be of any, or of mixed, genre, and may include free verse, prose poems, monostichs, sonnets, villanelles, haiku, tanka, senryu, sequences, etc., providing each individual poem does not exceed 25 lines.Index or record cards are a good idea, and can be loosely alphabetized. If you can clear a large space, maybe the lounge floor, or bedroom floor, you can work out themes.
How many are purely urban, and purely nature or Natural History? Subdivide them into categories.
If you write Natural History or nature poems, divide them into birds, animals, trees etc...
I did have trouble organising my second collection, but thankfully my editor and publisher is doing that all for me. But I know it's not easy when it's your own work.
I spent four years organising my first collection, so if you aren't in a hurry, there's nothing to worry about. If you are keen to enter a collection competition, then I'd start buying and filling in those index cards.
Handwriting is a good way to absorb the poems all over again. Or you could just put them in a word.doc with two columns, and paperslice them afterwards.
all my best,
Alan
Quote from: Julie B. K. on October 08, 2011, 09:15:51 PM
I just realized that I have more than 300 haiku & short form poems out on Twitter. What is the best way to organize them? ??? I can't seem to wrap my mind around how to structure the collection. I used to just log one poem per Word document in a Poetry folder on my computer when I wrote longer forms, but that seems excessive for short forms. Maybe one haiku per index card & throw them all in a recipe box?
How do you organize your haiku? Thanks in advance for sharing. :)
Julie B. K.
( am @nobodhi ... who are you ? )
Question : do you wish to arrange haiku so one might "follow" another ... in series ? (as in 'solo renku') ... OR, do you wish to arrrange haiku so each is independent and completely new & fresh ?
(This is sort of like asking energy if it's a particle, or a wave ... when it's really a wavicle.) You can compose constellations that create an entire sky ... ... or ...
( the sky's the limit )
Question : looking through your haiku, do you find repetitions ? If so, then take some time to review, collate, & cull. (Me, I think there are 13-14 "kinds" of haiku i TEND to write ... ) Since haiku aren't as bulky as novels, you can write 1000s and tens of 1000s, then pick out ones that you feel are your gems ...
Question : do you find thematic elements around which you could arrange "sets" ? Examples : turning points in your life, places you've visited, seasons of the year, etc
Question : unlike as in twitter, you have complete control as to how your work would look on a page ... have you considered that too ?
Question : have you asked your haiku how they want to be organized ?
:)
Hello Julie,
I don't tweet so can't comment on that side of things.
I keep 2 word.doc files - one is the active file that I'm storing new, unpublished haiku in; the other is for published haiku and includes publication details (when, where).
Once a haiku is published it is cut from the first file and pasted into the other.
I print out each page of unpublished haiku as it is complete as a safety measure, but also have a back-up of this file on a data stick. I also print out each page of published haiku as it is complete and keep in a clear file, again as a back-up (I don't always have the journals, etc, that the poems appeared in).
At the beginning of this year I decided that my active file was getting pretty big so on January 1 started active2.
Hope this is some help.
Hi Alan -- It's not exactly a continuation of my previous thread, although it is a related problem. I probably shouldn't have used the word collection in the header for this topic. What I'd like to do is get a handle on my complete haiku output so that I can organize it into a collection or various collections. My previous question touched upon how to structure a collection in a literary sense. Right now, I'm more interested in the mechanics of managing haiku output -- how do I find the haiku I want, how do I keep from losing them, etc. I have haiku everywhere -- scribbled in the pages of Frogpond, typed into the notes function of my iPhone, tweeted on Twitter, posted on my blog, sitting lonely in Word files. There's no cohesion or long-term organization in my current storage methods.
To touch on nobodhi's suggestions -- I think my haiku want to be grouped together somewhere, in some mass storage device (physical or otherwise), so that they can talk to each other and play together.
So Sandra, yes, that does help. Thank you. I used to organize my nonfiction publications in this way by title - pending in one file and published in another. It didn't occur to me to store complete haiku that way too.
Right now, I am leaning toward Alan's suggestion of writing out all of my haiku in longhand on index cards -- poem on one side and dates of creation and publication (if applicable) on the other -- and sticking them into a recipe box or similar. I can't say exactly why that appeals to me, but I do like the idea of re-experiencing the poem through the pen, especially since I typed many of these into a computer or phone the first time.
I'm curious as to what everyone else does with their haiku. Please share!
Thanks to everyone for their help.
I'm currently filing my haiku by "keywords". For example:
teetering grass
just moments ago
a dragonfly
... would be in the T's for teetering; and D's for dragonfly (alphabetized). I could also file it under "grass" and "moments". It takes a bit to get it going ... and I'm definitely behind, but I can find my haiku by subject (keyword) anytime I want. If someone says, "hey, do you have one on and ANT"?, I can look under "A" and find it (them). All "moon" ones are in the same category regardless if it is "the moon", "autumn moon", "smiling moon" etc. However, "smiling moon" could be filed under "smile" as well ... "Autumn Moon" can be filed under Autumn as well. It's always your call on where you decide to file them.
Just what I'm doing these days.
Don
If you want to do a keyword search all you have to do in Windows OS is SEARCH on phrase. If you put information you might want to trace or if you have a theme you can search on that. For examle, if I want to find all my poems with "dragonfly" I do a phrase search on my poem files or folders, it's part of the search criteria.
If you cut and paste all your tweets to a folder this will work on that folder too.
The SEARCH will give results in a column sortable way, on file name, type, date, updated, and other criteria. You can then organize the results of the SEARCH in a few handy ways.
I hope this helps.
How 'bout an electronic recipe box in the form of a single Word document (& a backup) with all haiku in it. Each is titled with "catch" word(s), i.e. season, time of day, mood, etc.; the title may have several catch words. A search can then be performed when looking for that special verse. Also consider notes w/each verse to track any submitted / accepted / rejected.
Phil
All good points, and I like Phil's because if you can't remember the phrase part or the fragment part, then this helps.
What is good about this, though, is that when certain anthologies come asking for submissions on particular themes, you'll have them cross-referenced. Don't just go for keywords, but what the theme(s) of the haiku etc... touch on.
Alan
Quote from: PAllen on October 12, 2011, 08:04:37 AM
How 'bout an electronic recipe box in the form of a single Word document (& a backup) with all haiku in it. Each is titled with "catch" word(s), i.e. season, time of day, mood, etc.; the title may have several catch words. A search can then be performed when looking for that special verse. Also consider notes w/each verse to track any submitted / accepted / rejected.
Phil
For the last 10 years I haven't organised mine at all! ??? I've just thrown them wildly around, some to journals, some on facebook, twitter etc, some on my public blog. All without any record whatsoever of what went where!
Lately I thought it was about time I got organised so I've just set up a private blog to keep them in. I've made it private so only I can see it. Being a blog its possible to search it easily for particular words or by journal name for previously published ones. It's also easy to add keywords for anything else that might be useful to search on. It's so much easier now to keep track of what I've submitted to journals and what the outcome was. If I ever do decide to collect them up it will be relatively straightforward as I'll have all the publication details attached to each haiku.
Maybe I should have done this years ago but I did enjoy just sharing without caring and I'm quite happy to be able to forget some of the earlier ones!!
Alison
Alison has a good point.
Also, you can find your haiku (good and bad) by simply googling.
Michael and myself did google Alison for her haiku, and some of those results were ones that went into this fine anthology which Alison is featured: http://area17.blogspot.com/2010/11/fifty-seven-damn-good-haiku-by-bunch-of.html
It sounds like Alison has enough quality work to consider going for the Snapshot Press Book Collection! If you've got them collated neatly as Alison suggests in a private blog, it'll help make things easier.
But do back them up on old-fashioned record cards or sheets of paper too! ;-)
Alan
Speaking from personal practice, my writing is usually titled with the current date. That way they form a chronology of their own and have at least a point of reference where I can think upon the mood and point of life where said images stemmed from. They seem to follow various themes in response to the rhythms of personal life.
This is one method, probably not the most specific means of organising thoughts however.
Hi Julie,
There's a program called Scrivener (http://www.literatureandlatte.com/scrivener.php) that I've been using and while I don't use it for Haiku I think it might be suitable as it works similar to an index card/recipe box style. You can categorise/tag things, write notes about them, search, etc. It's not free but it's a fraction of the cost of Microsoft Word (I think it's about £25 to buy after the trial).
There's more information and screenshots on the site and the tutorial that comes with it is excellent. It's a great way to organise a writing project from a single file. The free trial lasts 30 days and only counts the days you actually use it instead of 30 calendar days:
http://www.literatureandlatte.com/scrivener.php
(http://www.literatureandlatte.com/gfx/ScrivShots/win-writing_studio.jpg)
Thanks, everyone! Alison, I'm glad to know that I'm not the only one facing this problem. I, too, have found it very liberating - poetically speaking - to share without caring. For now, I have a little recipe box with index cards in it and my own jumbled notations. I have also found that I'm fine with letting go of a number of my early attempts and just storing the ones that have potential or speak to me. It's a good start, but I also plan to store them digitally at a later time. It's fun for me to see what everyone else is doing.
:) well, I guess it can become as complicated as we want, but the basic thing, imo, is to keep one file of one's unpublished haiku and another of one's published haiku.
- Lorin
Just the old fashioned way. go through em' one by one. Start with two large categories, then break each category down to smaller ones.
Hi
As a newbie to THF I was also struggling to organise my steadily growing scraps of haiku fragments and complete verses. I have scraps everywhere on my iPhone, on my ipad on my MacBook and in various notebooks. It was becoming unwieldy, cumbersome and I couldn't find what I needed.
Having considered all of the suggestions here I plumped for the following method using ipages on my MacBook. I had looked at all sorts of note taking apps for my ipad but none really seemed to offer what I needed. Plus my handwriting is atrocious and I can't read my own writing most of the time so record cards were out!
Firstly I set up a 'template' in ipages from an old music hall poster template available in the existing templates. It means I have an interesting olde worlde style page to look at when typing! The template is set up with a title field, notes about the haiku moment for referance in the future and then a table of 3 columns by 6 rows with a title row. This gives me space to put in a title explanation and then 18 little boxes to type in variants of the same haiku, changing words, punctuation etc to see which works best.
Using ipages means I can also have the thesaurus and dictionary to hand. I can also add notes in the margin if I want to explaining various things. I can also add photos I have taken or sketches drawn to the documents if required.
Each haiku or fragment (I seem to having a growing collection of two liners with no first or last line!) is on its own document. Documents are saved into files by month and then year. Using Search in the files it is easy to find keywords. Additional Tag keywords can be added to the document if necessary such as 'nature' or 'urban' if the haiku does not contain these words but I feel I need to be able to search by category.
The secret to any system is knowing it and sticking to it and being able to find what you want when you want. The latter is down to discipline which as any writer knows is the key to writing as well as as filing :0/
Hope this assists others in their search for filing systems for their haiku
Regards
C
THF
Thanks for keeping this thread available ongoing for new members.
Organizing and tracking haiku is a headache we each have to deal with.
-- For me, the most vulnerable time shuffling the card system is pulling cards/haiku for submission, storing the in a tickler file or separate card file box, waiting for acceptance or rejection from an editor.
-- And the tendency to keep those few in circulation and parked in the temporary "home" as submission dates roll out over a season.
-- In a private workshop last summer, the monitor established a thread for Q and A on the topic of oranization and storage of haiku.
-- Two of the poets in our group use electronic fee-pay services that provide organizing tools/systems designed for poetry. Anyone can buy an annual subscription.
-- I am hesitant to trust a rental service to be maintained and serviced for viral bugs and hacks.
-- Is this phobia justified?
-- Has anyone here on these boards found the service flexible, yet "safe"?
Thanks,
Jan
Hi JanI bought a portable hard drive, primarily for my photos and artwork so my laptop isn't slowed down, and use memory sticks for documents. Memory sticks are small though, so a portable hard drive, mine is bright orange, might be useful to store word.docs etc...
Quote from: Jan in Texas on October 31, 2015, 07:53:40 AM
THF
Thanks for keeping this thread available ongoing for new members.
Organizing and tracking haiku is a headache we each have to deal with.
-- For me, the most vulnerable time shuffling the card system is pulling cards/haiku for submission, storing the in a tickler file or separate card file box, waiting for acceptance or rejection from an editor.
-- And the tendency to keep those few in circulation and parked in the temporary "home" as submission dates roll out over a season.
-- In a private workshop last summer, the monitor established a thread for Q and A on the topic of oranization and storage of haiku.
-- Two of the poets in our group use electronic fee-pay services that provide organizing tools/systems designed for poetry. Anyone can buy an annual subscription.
-- I am hesitant to trust a rental service to be maintained and serviced for viral bugs and hacks.
-- Is this phobia justified?
-- Has anyone here on these boards found the service flexible, yet "safe"?
Thanks,
Jan
I have never heard of a haiku workshop leader suggesting a way to store participant's haiku for an annual fee.
Could you message me privately?
There is Cloud, although I don't use it, so if you had a fire and everything was destroyed, it would be safe up there. Alternatively if you get a memory stick with a strong keyring attachment, and the eye of the stick is metal, not plastic, keep the docs on that. My keys always stay in my trouser pocket, never in a bowl by the door. But plastic sticks tend to break, so a sturdy keyring attachment on the stick is advised.
warm regards,
Alan
Alan, wow.
I did not really anticipate a reply on a thread as dated as this one.
Thank you for the advice on thumb drives and portable drives. The hardware is not really my dilemma. It is the digital method of tracking which haiku are "in process", "out for submission", and tracking both the rejections and acceptances.
Which leads us to the pay to use online server-ware offered by a few companies, and being used by poet's I know.
Please do not read the word "monitor" as a leader or master figure in the group. As it turns out, the monitor knows just enough about haiku to land her a job as editor of a regional publication, where all forms are considered for publication. The monitor is well published in most forms, but not so much haiku.
The format of participation was more along the lines of "the patients have over taken the asylum". But we made it work.
TMI?
Again, I was pleased to see the old threads are paid some attention on THF.
Jan in Texas.
Hi Jan,
It's my pleasure to get round to answering, as well as my volunteer job (unpaid) to monitor every single message/thread.
This is an important thread as the more we start to get published the more complicated it is to keep track of the various aspects of record keeping.
I simply keep word.docs labelled Master Credits for published work; Free Haiku which can be very new or freed up work; Waiting which is submissions I am still waiting for a response.
It is a lot of hard work to treble check everything but I can't see how a third party could assist me. I have another word.doc which is for fragments and phrases that half a haiku.
If the time comes when a free haiku hasn't been accepted a few times, and over a large amount of time I can have that grace of time and distance, it may be amended/revised or switch for another fragment or phrase.
I have many different ways of writing, as well as styles in haiku, and those word.docs form the core alongside my Haiku Journal Notebooks that I designed, as I also regularly write longhand, with pen and paper, a very old method I know, but it has its uses. :-)
warm regards,
Alan
wow! Fascinating thread.
I also keep my work on a thumb drive (as backup to my hard drive).
On each is a (master) Word.doc with every verse known to Phil.
Beneath each verse is a line/note/entry of who/what/where.
---P Allen
---And Alan ----- Below the description of my current process ...
Let me state my method and ask if what I am doing is similar to yours.
On the Master word doc ... (Alan's "free" doc) ...
Each year I start a new document entitled year and Haiku
Like this ...
2015_Haiku
That is where I put any newborn ku, linear, down the page, one after the other.
I pull from those "ideas" (usually begun just a novice style haiku or senryu) when I am moved to rework it into sophistcation, and then insert the revision directly under the original ku.
--- If submitted, I make notes under the version as to publication and email sent to, then either "reject" or the publishers credits. Or, sometimes I have an epiphany and go back to update/revise the original version while it is fresh.
---When pressed for a deadline, I can usually pull something appropriate for the timbre of the publisher.
At the time I submit the completed ku, I create a word doc for that poem, or poems being submitted and name the doc first with the year it would be found in my yearly master docs, then as appropriate to the editors instruction the name of the publication (or shortcut name), time of year, then the word haiku or senryu or haibun etc, then my last name, as a courtesy to the editor.
___Example:___
2015_Presence_Winter_Haiku_Benson
Phew, does all of that compute?
P ALLEN... Is that close to how you work your Master doc?
ALAN, it seems that I need to add a working doc for submissions tracking, like your "Waiting" doc. As well, add a "Credits" doc for published ku.
---To maintain some semblance of continuity, I am thinking of keeping each as identified by year.
2015_Waiting or 2015_submissions.
---This would eliminate the confusion in my Master doc, trying to keep everything in one document.
This is good and I will contimplate it for 2016 work.
--- First question would be, in all of the cycles for submission seasons, how do you track specific haiku you may still have back in your "Free", or freed up doc?
Better said, how do you keep from inadvertently sending the same poem again to an editor, from a previous round of submissions.
Maybe you get rejected a lot less than me so this is not a potential problem?
---Regarding scraps of phrases, and word lists kept in categories,,, I need to digitize that, don't i. Haha
2015_Haiku_scraps
Feed back welcome, 'cause I am sure I can't see around all of the corners in upgrading my so called system.
Jan in Texas
Thanks Jan!
Amazing account of your process. Glad this thread is alive and kicking!
J-'n-T,
Wow! "Thorough" comes to mind. . .
When I rediscovered haiku and my fiscal potential I was "thorough;" but soon reality reared. . .
I have one document, and within is each verse (page-1 the latest penning/page-nn the earliest penning). Beneath any verse that has witnessed public accolade (or an editor's distain) is a note of who/what/where/when.
Verse-in-progress is edited on the 'notes app' on my iPhone; once I am satisfied the verse goes into my master-D.
I have a binder with print copies of correspondence of (un)successful submissions.
If there is an event I wish to submit to – I do a word search of the master document and copy into a new 'subission.doc' the potentials. Once choice(s) has been made I go back into the master-D, make a note and delete my 'submission.doc.'
That's it.
As you have described, your process is very close to my early days, but then I realized. . . too many files, too much overhead. I write because I am driven (as are all writers); I learned early that I am my best fan and prefer to keep my volume slim.
Sorry to be of little help. . .
Phil
Alan --
Phil --
-- Thank you both for spending precious time explaining your approaches to the "Master Document" theory and practice.
-- Phil
Having two approaches to this master doc method is valuable when weighing options for restructuring my own data base of haiku.
The single doc approach (Phil) is closer to what I have been using.
-- Alan
The multi-doc, in support of the Master Doc, has elements and concepts worthy of the massive production of a Master haijin.
-Those multi-docs keep the master doc from becoming a monster when searching (using the "find" option) for a haiku one wrote years ago.
-If it was published, searching the submissions doc is easier than the single master-doc that contains all of the poet's process.
-- Alan and Phil
In considering the restructure of my process, it becomes instantly clear that I move all of my annual Master Docs content to a single master doc.
-- Alan
Creating a document for leftover phrases and "favorite words" will keep me from scrambling through spiral binders, journals and stacks of napkins when processing rewrites.
Again, thank you both for detailed points in keeping the Master Document process.
Jan in Texas
I did not yet begin to start writing enough haiku to want to organise them but this thread has me inspired.
I think, initially as I learn terms, I want to use a telephone directory, the kind we write the names and phone numbers, so that it is an easy glossary.
The haiku, I want to maybe write ... in a notebook? With notes and carry in my handbag.
Why that instead of using the digital accessories?
Because the lead of the pencil makes music on paper, it talks, even keys on the keyboard talk, but my fingers fly on the keyboard. When I write with a pencil, I tend to concentrate more, I brood more on the words, I look away and think deeper. So this is how I choose to begin...( each time I type begin, I am typing in being, lol)
When I have a book of them, I will save them on a pendrive, like the others here. It will give me a chance to read and revise again. My guess is in another 10 years :-[
Anna,
Thanks for sharing your approach.
--Even before pushing my work out to editors, I created a master document, beginning in 2011. Each year a new master doc.
--In 2014-ish, after a mild brain trama, my motivation focused on pulling from these documents to get published; ego? Legacy? Not sure it matters; I needed to make the leap.
-- In those two years, I have maybe 40/50 haiku published. Doesn't sound like much to keep track of, but I began to look ahead at how complicated this is gonna be if I don't develope a broader view of my options.
-- Iam so glad for this opportunity to ask veterans how they work it, knowing they are juggling thousands of ku, partial ku, published ku.
-- As an aside, on your writing process:
I heartily concur there is value in scratching out ideas, phrases, haiku on paper with pen or pencil. Hence my comment regarding the pressing need to digitize my journal scribbles, napkin phrases, and spiral bound attempts. That "find option" in Word.doc will expedite the search for just the word, or phrase ...
-- Also, if you read Alan's 11/04/15 entry above, he too, values the experience of penning on paper (in journals, if I get his gestalt).
-- Your comment on your writing process, where you look away to better concentrate is interesting ...
In his TEDX video, Alan speaks of making that "lateral shift" in our daily life. An amazing concept, which leads the individual to the Zoka. Or so has been my experience.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxLTiR7AKDE&sns=tw via @youtube
Jan in Texas
I faced the same issue of having my work scattered in iPhone notes, separate txt, doc, and pages documents, as well as journals, haiku notebooks, emails, forums, and scraps of paper. 12 years of it! This past summer I had the gift of several weeks home by myself with no spouse or kids and decided to organize it all into a spreadsheet. For me an excel spreadsheet works best because individual cells are well suited to each carry a haiku and I am used to keeping extensive excel spreadsheets at the university where I work. (Although I'm on a Mac so it's Numbers which is Mac's version of excel. Other than a few different functions and terminology it's the same thing.)
My columns include:
Workshop or submission status, Original Haiku, Edited version, Submission history, Source notes, and year.
I love that I can:
- have each haiku in its own little rectangle
- sort by year,
- associate the source (Poland vacation, NaHaiWriMo Facebook, Write Club @ library, etc)
- search by keyword (all haiku written about frogs, thunderstorms, or traffic, etc) in one place
- revisit the haiku and write a revision in the next column without losing the original
- see the submission history for each poem (like this: Acorn-rejected / Modern Haiku- rejected / Heron's Nest- published)
- copy published ones into their own sheet so my body of published work is also in one place but not separated from origins
- update endlessly without running out of space
- did I mention the ease of sorting!
Next project:
- adding a column for season
- starring/flagging more of the ones I want to rework in the status column
- ultimate: getting a first collection together for publishing, such as Alan recommended the Snapshot Press contest by March
Other tabs (or sheets) in the workbook include a log of published haiku with the name, issue, and date of publication; a collection of journals & contests to submit to sortable by deadline or submission open date as well as sub details/emails/urls/ and my own notes about typically accepted archetypes. I then mark if I've submitted to a particular cycle as well as marking each of the haiku in the sub batch in its Submission History column on the other tab/sheet.
I highly recommend excel for organizing haiku. Anything I write on the go on my phone, journal, scrap, I enter within the week into this master database.
Thanks Agnes,
I knew you had developed a mega-sheet, but with my recent brain trama, could not envision such.
--- I have spreadsheets with publishers, addys, seasons they publish, notes about the editor, etc. But when my computer conked out last year, much of it was left only on my thumbdrive. Which I can take to the library when I have to access the old stuff. Some of it I have converted to my smartphone but it is frustrating to rely on that limited software pkg.
---The layout you have suggested, and my past use of spreadsheets in accounting as well as social work, I can see this works well for you.
--- like both Phil and Alan, there ultimately has to be a separate document for one thing or another, which seems inevitable.
--- Q 4 U , do you keep up with favorite words or unused/partial phrases for future use?
Alan's method spoke to this.
Thanks for your detailed process.
Jan Benson
That's why I like the single spreadsheet with multiple tabs (or sheets in a single workbook); no need for extra documents.
When I have partial haiku I just enter them into their own square. As I comb through for submissions, I run across them and enter finishing ideas or add on to them!
Hi Jan,Quote from: Jan in Texas on November 25, 2015, 12:37:24 AM
SNIP
--- Q 4 U , do you keep up with favorite words or unused/partial phrases for future use?
Alan's method spoke to this.
Jan Benson
I find having a
fragments and phrases document really useful and had hundreds that are now used up to complete haiku, so I need to start bringing more into that file. Everyone will have their own methods of collating fragments be it old school notebooks, or spreadsheets etc...
Fragments of poems, ideas, lines in general, can be really useful to push us into better juxtapositions that are not just explaining the other part of the haiku. It makes us go for a further leap that lets the haiku pack a real punch. :)
warm regards,
Alan